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1which in some langues is divided into 3 -
the
id -- ego -- super ego.... which is one mathematical ...
attempt to ground the simple bases of humans
being... being.
define --- in your own language the triple effect.....
and remember it is a way as in always to help ground a human being....
on Aug 16 04:37 AM
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on Aug 16 11:10 AM
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well if you wish to deny why God gave -- us a mouth -- a bottom hole -- ear holes and them thousands of holes in our skin -- which I think in some parts of the bible it those holes are a part of your body --- whole is the understanding not segregation....
P.s sorry for being flippant towards you am tired ---- thanking you for sharing ---- lots of love mate -- I av had a bad day ...
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on Aug 17 01:04 AM
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on Aug 17 02:19 AM
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on Aug 16 12:10 PM
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P.S please remember that in Deuteronomy it talks of stoning women and children to death let alone others with out a trial ---- And it is good for Christians to remember that as time has evolved that we av worked hard to retract -- the horrifying old laws in the bible -- to bring fore ward the compassion tht Jesus spoke about
And that most heads of churches - Mosques - Synagogue -Buddhist temples -Seeks churches -- etc
are all meeting to bring us together as a united world -- It seems madness that we are not at the lower end of tings doing the same.....
We have so many peoples of the world talking and sharing like never be for as for the first time -- the cities and towns are full of the world ---
When you keep picking up the Bible --- To talk of God things -- You never see wot is the entire God....
If you truely read the bible -- you will see that the eating of the fruit of knowledge - was a desire of God's which is where you will see after the act God says to the others in the Garden -- they are now truely like us -- In the image of --- the gift was to give us choice --- Not to lock us in a book only --
It's a process -- of sharing and learning -- and not all of it is nice ---
You cannot learn the pain of a child who lives in a ghetto and is brought up in a neglected world if you just sit in a church - and lock your self a way in scripture --
The bible and the church is resting place and replenishing house for Christians to work inside and out from --- if you can not empathize - you no more than leave the world with empty God substance ---
Love and learn about your fellow human being -- with out judgement -
on Aug 17 01:13 AM
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"If you truely read the bible -- you will see that the eating of the fruit of knowledge - was a desire of God's which is where you will see after the act God says to the others in the Garden -- they are now truely like us -- In the image of --- the gift was to give us choice --- Not to lock us in a book only --"
It was AGAINST Gods will that Adam and Eve took the fruit, it was not Gods desire AT ALL,
on Aug 17 02:08 AM
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My understanding is that God made and planned the whole process -- And is in total control .... Did he not start at the very beginning -- Don't read wot your not mature enough to handle --- you just proved that some Christians are un able to be have them selves --- which is my worry ---- how much devil in tongue you suffering with -- People like to explore wot they are really feeling and thinking in their mind --- Thats one of the stinkings in my mind -wot I mean the ? of hiding behind the bible --
THATS -- WOT I SAY TO PEOPLE GOD NEW ME BE FORE I WAS BORN AND HE'LL KNOW WHEN I AM DONE DUSTED AND DEAD..
So Fred get with the programme --
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on Aug 17 05:01 AM
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on Aug 17 07:49 AM
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does it matter -- I thought at first with your temper you where a Scotch man .. but your Irish where be ye frm ..I av to say to just made me laugh ...
on Aug 17 08:28 AM
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on Aug 16 09:48 PM
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Hi -- and lots of love Lady
on Aug 16 09:58 PM
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What happens is when we are born, we are born with knowledge already instilled in us. And we are pure, and we have not been afflicted by societies rulings of telling who we are Or who were supposed to be.
And we forget this. That we don't need to think hard to reason the answers out. The answers are already inside of us.
We go through stages in out lives where we grow. And as we grow we are stripped of some of the knowledge we already knew. And we gain other knowledge as well.
Basically we should never take anything too seriously. But at the same time there are some things that we should take seriously. The key to a happy life in all this madness is to find the correct balance.
And it ain't easy! Lol.
on Aug 16 10:43 PM
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on Aug 17 10:21 PM
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on Aug 17 05:05 AM
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god the father...the eternal unchanging principles of life and creation
god the sons... his highest creation with free will and mind..to choose
consciously to use the creation responsibly or selifshly
responsible...being considering the needs of the whole by considering the needs of others
befor his own...
here son ..male is symbolic of the conscious mind choice of all souls
whether incarnated in a male or female body in what is usually a long list of incarnations
jesus is said to have had 33 incarnation before he came as the savior
and one was adam of adam and eve..
and
god the holy spirit...aka god the mother...is the record of a soul that perfectly
does the will of his creator...
THE OPPOSING FORCES COMES INTO PLAY
WHEN ONE SEEKS SELF GLORY
INSTEAD OF GIVING ALL GLORY TO ONES CREATOR
IF ONE DOES
THEN ONE IS AWARE OF HOW ALL ETERNAL INDIVIDUAL SOULS
ARE POTENTIALLY ALL EQUAL CO-CREATORS UNDER THE CREATOR..
see romans chapter 1 for more on this
and also to see how reincarnation is part of the biblical salvation plan
in studying the bible
do some thorrough word study of the greek and hebrew
on Aug 17 08:47 PM
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and one was adam of adam and eve..
Said by who, soultesting?
cq
on Aug 18 02:44 AM
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Zec 6:11 And take silver and gold, and make crowns, and set them on the head of Joshua the son of Jehozadak, the high priest.
Zec 6:12 And speak to him, saying, So speaks Jehovah of Hosts, saying, Behold the Man whose name is The BRANCH! And He shall spring up out of His place, and He shall build the temple of Jehovah.
Zec 6:13 Even He shall build the temple of Jehovah; and He shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule on His throne. And He shall be a priest on His throne; and the counsel of peace shall be between them both
IN THE HEBREW the word adam happens where adam happens in most english translations
below is the king james with strong numbers for the hebrew word thatis translated the hebrew word h120 and h121 are the same hebrew word ..
some of the adams before the word adam occurs in most english translations were not the individual adam of adam and eve
but humanity before that adam of adam and eve....
which could have been other humans besides the individual adam of adam and eve
Gen_1:26 And GodH430 said,H559 Let us makeH6213 manH120 in our image,H6754 after our likeness:H1823 and let them have dominionH7287 over the fishH1710 of the sea,H3220 and over the fowlH5775 of the air,H8064 and over the cattle,H929 and over allH3605 the earth,H776 and over everyH3605 creeping thingH7431 that creepethH7430 uponH5921 the earth.H776
Gen_1:27 So GodH430 createdH1254 (H853) manH120 in his own image,H6754 in the imageH6754 of GodH430 createdH1254 he him; maleH2145 and femaleH5347 createdH1254 he them.
Gen_2:5 And everyH3605 plantH7880 of the fieldH7704 beforeH2962 it wasH1961 in the earth,H776 and everyH3605 herbH6212 of the fieldH7704 beforeH2962 it grew:H6779 forH3588 the LORDH3068 GodH430 had notH3808 caused it to rainH4305 uponH5921 the earth,H776 and there was notH369 a manH120 to tillH5647 (H853) the ground.H127
Gen_2:7 And the LORDH3068 GodH430 formedH3335 (H853) manH120 of the dustH6083 ofH4480 the ground,H127 and breathedH5301 into his nostrilsH639 the breathH5397 of life;H2416 and manH120 becameH1961 a livingH2416 soul.H5315
Gen_2:8 And the LORDH3068 GodH430 plantedH5193 a gardenH1588 eastwardH4480 H6924 in Eden;H5731 and thereH8033 he putH7760 (H853) the manH120 whomH834 he had formed.H3335
Gen_2:15 And the LORDH3068 GodH430 tookH3947 (H853) the man,H120 and putH5117 him into the gardenH1588 of EdenH5731 to dressH5647 it and to keepH8104 it.
Gen_2:16 And the LORDH3068 GodH430 commandedH6680 H5921 the man,H120 saying,H559 Of everyH4480 H3605 treeH6086 of the gardenH1588 thou mayest freely eat:H398 H398
Gen_2:18 And the LORDH3068 GodH430 said,H559 It is notH3808 goodH2896 that the manH120 should beH1961 alone;H905 I will makeH6213 him an helpH5828 meet for him.H5048
Gen_2:22 And(H853) the rib,H6763 whichH834 the LORDH3068 GodH430 had takenH3947 fromH4480 man,H120 madeH1129 he a woman,H802 and broughtH935 her untoH413 the man.H120
Gen_2:23 And AdamH121 said,H559 ThisH2063 is nowH6471 boneH6106 of my bones,H4480 H6106 and fleshH1320 of my flesh:H4480 H1320 sheH2063 shall be calledH7121 Woman,H802 becauseH3588 sheH2063 was takenH3947 out of Man.H4480 H376
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cayce said jesus had a total of 33 incarnations i think
he does not give all of them
but the ones i recall are the other joshua before the one of zechariah
melchisedec, joseph of egypt, the father of zoroaster, enoch, hermes, amilius of atlantis , asaph[chief musician of the temple,during david's and solomon's time]
on Aug 18 08:25 AM
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on Aug 17 08:01 AM
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So finally one of you guys nudged in - Yes I will check these things -- yyou av explained some stuff I 4 got -- but you av also taught me too...
Let me ask you a question... u don't need to engage with it -- if you don't want to --- In lay persons language if you can -- cos wot I gonna ask you -- I think maybe impossible -- but it interests me...
Do you think you could take wot you wrote -- and see how it connects to the id -- ego -- super ego ...
I believe some one would be able to pull it of --- but I not tht person... Some one studied maybe able too....
Thank you for the chat ---
on Aug 18 03:24 AM
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ego is the self when active in a physical material flesh incarnation
somewhat along the lines of
But this ineffable experience we know to be "I" has two aspects:
potentiality and actuality. The "I" of potentiality is the larger,
more universal aspect; the individual actualization of this potential
is more unique and personal. Hence, Self can be considered the
subject of the unconscious, and Ego the subject of desire,
intellectual activity, and conscious experience. These are not two
different subjects, but they are two different experiences of "I".
Self is "I" as the human spirit, who is present in desire and all
manner of experiences, while Ego is the conscious and active
dimension of "I" in this embodied state. When one consciously
realizes this connection between Self and Ego, then the Ego loses its
sense of alienation and isolation and begins to experience the
social, cosmic, transcendent and holistic qualities of Self.
Because of our false self conditioning, however, our awareness
of this connection between Self in Ego can be so terribly distorted
that the Egoic "I" does not know from whence it comes, and so it
attaches to all manner of things within and without the person in an
attempt to complete itself. "I" can then become lost in the
convoluted activities of the mind and emotions, becoming, instead, a
"me," or object of my own mental activity. In such cases (and they
are legion), then "I" am not merely shaped by my experiences, but
determined by them. They are not "mine," but "me." Excessive self-
definition and judgmentalism follow from the creation of this mind-
self, which is not-"I".
THE ABOVE IS FROM THE SITE...
http://shalomplace.com/view/godselfego.html
I DO NOT AGREE WITH ALL THE GUY SAYS THO AT THAT SITE..
so the ego has to do with the conscious choices one makes
if they are of the old nature and distortions of a souls seeking
to put self above others
tho some might hide this from themselves by putting themselves down too much
..the original imbalance of conscious remains in the past
where it was the soul seeking self glory
which is to serve self above the needs of others
it has to be an ego choice to be convicted of their past guilt
and repent and accept the holy spirit as their teacher
best done by asking god the father in the name of jesus
for the teachings of the holy spirit
THE ID ARE THE DRIVES OF THE SUBCONCIOUS MIND
THE HABIT MIND DEVELOPED BY ONE'S PAST EGO CHOICES..
WHICH IN MANY WAYS MOST CAN NO LONGER UNDERSTAND
BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT TO FACE THEIR PAST SINS AND GUILT
when they change their nature to seeking to find redemption from their past
[and some say this takes no less than the number of lifetimes of jesus...33..but most of course take many more lifetmes]
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS AS god the mother ..or wisdom in the bible as a woman
which is to say the record of a soul when it is perfectly aligned in what it does
according to the will of god the father
which is to properly discern needs
and to consider the needs of others before ones own
the reason i take that the bibl does not make this more clear
and such things as reincarnation in part is covered by these verses from the bible
Pro 25:2 The honour of God is to hide a thing, And the honour of kings to search out a matter.
Pro 25:3 The heavens for height, and the earth for depth, And the heart of kings-- are unsearchable.
Pro 25:4 Take away dross from silver, And a vessel for the refiner goeth forth,
Pro 25:5 Take away the wicked before a king, And established in righteousness is his throne.
Pro 25:6 Honour not thyself before a king, And in the place of the great stand not.
Pro 25:7 For better that he hath said to thee, `Come thou up hither,' Than that he humble thee before a noble, Whom thine eyes have seen.
Pro 25:8 Go not forth to strive, haste, turn, What dost thou in its latter end, When thy neighbour causeth thee to blush?
Pro 25:9 Thy cause plead with thy neighbour, And the secret counsel of another reveal not,
Pro 25:10 Lest the hearer put thee to shame, And thine evil report turn not back.