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  • Mehak
    on Jul 12 09:43 AM
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    Who can define the death of Plato? . Where and when he died? .  Don't paste any site and don't take information to read the any site . Honestly , use your knowledge and mind . Ok


    After reading different comments ,i  think , i should  tell the answer now . I just want to read the knowledge of other .  I will leave my more questions , in future , just for sharing the knowledge . Thanks to every one , who shared their knowledge here  .  The answer is that :

    '' Plato died at a wedding feast in 347 B.C , in his eighty first year . Tradition  tells us that the old philosopher retired to a corner to rest and was found dead in the morning , when the revels had ended . All Athens mourned her distinguished scholar . ''
  • just mercedesGold member
    on Jul 12 01:38 PM
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    He died in his sleep, gently let go of the world of forms as a Thracian slave girl played her flute...

  • Nevel
    on Jul 12 04:51 PM
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    I thought in a field ful of garden-beans, which he hated, or was that another Greek philosopher...?
    • just mercedesGold member
      on Jul 12 05:21 PM
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      You're thinking of Pythagoras - and his 'beans' was a metaphor for testicles...
      • Nevel
        on Jul 12 05:40 PM
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        Yes! Oh, thanks for letting me know.
      • Abu Nuwas
        on Jul 19 06:14 PM
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        Which in some place East of Suez, I ordered, as on the menu, the Arabic called them 'eggs' or 'little eggs'. They weren't much. But as to Pythagoras, well, I would have more respect for the man if beans had meant beans. I recall squatting on the ground with the local headmaster, eating beans from a metal plate, as did everyone. Then it would become like a smelly Cape Canaveral, with many 'We have lift off!' cries. I may be exaggerating there.
  • SlingShot
    on Jul 12 11:56 PM
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    He was unfortunate
    to hear his own rattle;
    percussions of the lasting repercussion,
    exhaling echoes;
    like sonar to those who are attune.



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    soul testing123
    on Jul 13 02:22 AM
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    hmmm was he one who did not die
    like enoch and elijah
    a fiery chariot
    took him up to heaven?

    ah plato lives tho
    at least in this
    didnt he believe in reincarnation
    and ahem
    i am plato
    but his student aristotle
    it is said
    did not believe in reincarnation
    foolish aristtole
    wise plato
    and before plato
    socrates was homosexual or bi supposedly
    uh did any of that rub off on plato?
    a greek thing is....
    and who was aristotles studdent well known
    alex the great ..tooo supposedly ........
    that greek army was uh
    one tight army

    http://www.philosophos.com/knowledge_base/archives_13/philosophy_questions_1375.html

    not the problem tho with israel
    homosexuality
    usually by most considered
    streng verboten
    but not so with those genile pagan nations...
    but what jesus is gonna do to the nations
    oh my

    Psa 110:5  The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
    Psa 110:6  He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries.
    Psa 110:7  He shall drink of the brook in the way: therefore shall he lift up the head.

    watch out you greek pagans...
    heathens
    dead bodies gonna fill up places
    when the lord judges you
    gonna be a lot of wounded heads too among the greek heathens....
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    Judith Chandler
    on Jul 13 07:03 AM
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    I think he might have lived to be quite old.  He certainly didn't drink hemlock!
  • eaSilver member
    on Jul 13 07:48 PM
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    Plato's prick was made of Play-doh

    and that explains the death of Plato.

    ~ea

    • Mehak
      on Jul 14 12:59 PM
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      I want to know that how much knowledge people know ?.  Do you know the place and occasion , where plato died? . If you know , reply me without any help of any site .  Because i want to meet with literary people on this site.
    • Mehak
      on Jul 14 01:00 PM
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      I want to know that how much knowledge people know ?.  Do you know the place and occasion , where plato died? . If you know , reply me without any help of any site .  Because i want to meet with literary people on this site.
      • just mercedesGold member
        on Jul 14 01:16 PM
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        What if they don't want to meet with you?
        • Mehak
          on Jul 15 09:24 AM
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          Talk about yourself , not for others, You are not responsible of their reactions. When you don't know the answer then stop your blunders. Ok
          • just mercedesGold member
            on Jul 15 12:31 PM
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            You could try a little humility - it would work wonders for your false sense of entitlement...
            • Mehak
              on Jul 17 08:10 AM
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              What do you want to show me to say that statement .  Clear me  your point more then i will tell you that what you want to try , which i  think you also don't know about yourself.
              • just mercedesGold member
                on Jul 17 09:54 AM
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                'Clear me your point' - do you mean, make your point clear? I'm just not clear on that. Please elucidate further.

                • Mehak
                  on Jul 20 03:53 AM
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                  I was asking you about your that statement ''You could try a little humility - it would work wonders for your false sense of entitlement...''

                  Can you clear me  more that what do you want to say  me . Because i didn't get your point ,on my that topic .
                  • eaSilver member
                    on Jul 20 03:56 AM
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                    Yes, I wondered about the entitlement thing to.  Just what is it that you think you are entitled to, I wonder?
                  • just mercedesGold member
                    on Jul 20 03:57 AM
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                    I'm sorry, I don't understand your use of the language.

                    'Can you clear me that what do you want to say me'.

                    What does that mean?
                    • Mehak
                      on Jul 21 10:36 AM
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                      ''You could try a little humility - it would work wonders for your false sense of entitlement...''

                      (That is your comment , which you leaved on my this topic ''Plato''.  I wanted to ask you that why did you say me that .)
                      • just mercedesGold member
                        on Jul 21 11:02 AM
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                        You made a request on this topic, so you could weed out those who were not 'literary' enough for you to speak to.

                        from Wiki-

                        In a casual sense, the term "entitlement" refers to a notion or belief that one (or oneself) is deserving of some particular reward or benefit[

                        Narcissism (a false sense of entitlement)

                        In clinical psychology and psychiatry, an unrealistic, exaggerated, or rigidly held sense of entitlement may be considered a symptom of narcissistic personality disorder, seen in those who 'because of early frustrations...arrogate to themselves the right to demand lifelong reimbursement from fate.[2]
                        • Mehak
                          on Jul 23 09:54 AM
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                          Why those people start discussion here , who are not literary ?. Did you read my question and other comments carefully that i said that i want to meet with literary people . Why those people , who are not literary , feel complex to read the literary question . Those , who are not interested in literature , they should not comment on literary question . No body is seeing you that you are reading that question  , and they will think that you don't know the answer , and you  will feel complex . When a person cite any  literary question , it doesn't men that he or she wants to show others inferior , who are not literary . If you don't know the answer , you can ask it  than making it your ego .

                          You could  ask me  the answer of my question , but you started an other topic  with me  without any proof , which i  didn't know that where i wrote it . I don't think all the time , to my comments , because i've other works too . .The first thing is that , you should reply other according to question . Because that thing confuse other .
                      • eaSilver member
                        on Jul 21 11:18 AM
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                        The doctor must be "IN" even if the TOEFL teacher never existed.
          • just mercedesGold member
            on Jul 16 04:03 PM
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            And by the way, Samuel Taylor Coleridge wrote The Rime of the Ancient Mariner. You're only out by two hundred years!
            • Mehak
              on Jul 17 08:09 AM
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              Why are you telling me about the poem ''The Rime of the Ancient Mariner. Did i ask you about it? .  Your comments are opposite than my question .
              • just mercedesGold member
                on Jul 17 09:53 AM
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                You said in another thread that you liked the Rime of the Ancient Mariner, written by Philip Larkin. lollity!
                • Mehak
                  on Jul 20 03:50 AM
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                  Where i wrote it . Can you send me that link please? .
                  • just mercedesGold member
                    on Jul 20 03:54 AM
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                    Don't you remember? It was on a thread in the Cafe.
                    • Mehak
                      on Jul 20 06:54 AM
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                      I commented on many topics  that'[s why i've forgot it .  Can you paste me that link , where is wrote the poet's name too  of this  poem ''Ancient Mariner''? . Because  i don't mention any poet's name of any poem with doubt .  
                      • just mercedesGold member
                        on Jul 20 11:37 AM
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                        You often have no idea what you're talking about.
                        • Mehak
                          on Jul 21 10:27 AM
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                          hahahahahahha , very funny

                          If you think it , what can i do about it ? .  I said you that paste me that link , where i mentioned the poem ''Ancient Mariner,'' with its poet's name . Where i said that'' Philip larkin''  has been written that poem . I want to see that thread , where i wrote it .
                          • just mercedesGold member
                            on Jul 21 12:05 PM
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                            Is your memory that bad?
                            • Mehak
                              on Jul 23 09:44 AM
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                              Why are you not pasting me that thread , where i mentioned that thing that '' The ''Ancient Mariner''  has been written by ''Philip Larkin'' . Just paste that thread , and finish  this matter . Why are rendering the topic , serious .
                              It means , you lied that i said that ''Philip Larkin'' wrote this poem .  Do you comment only on one topic , of any person . When you comment on many topics then some times you forget hat where you replied , and on which topic . Do  you just read my topic here ,  in ''Forum'' . I don't adore to only one person's topic , because i read heterogenous  questions . You should discuss this topic there , where i wrote it , not here .   You confuse others  to discuss the opposite topic than real topic.
                              • just mercedesGold member
                                on Jul 23 09:48 AM
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                                "I don't adore to only one person's topic" -

                                just what do you think that means?

                                I applaud your efforts to use a language that's not your own. However, I really do think you should look up the meanings of words before you use them.

                                And of the authors of poems before you quote them..

                                Now, if you look back at this topic, you'll see that my very first response to your question was a true and valid answer.

                                Your comprehension is woeful, and your manners are worse.

                • Mehak
                  on Jul 23 09:59 AM
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                  I read your first comment too  , but i am talking about this poem ''The Rime of the Ancient Marine'' , which you said that i mention on an other thread that this poem wrote ''Philip lakin'' . So paste me that topic , where i said that thing .
                  • just mercedesGold member
                    on Jul 23 10:02 AM
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                    Stop being so demanding - I can't be bothered going back through the threads to find it. I know you said it, you know you said it, everyone else who read it knows you said it.
                    • Mehak
                      on Jul 23 10:11 AM
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                      It means your are forcing me that i accept your point . You lied , you also know that lied  . When you say any thing other , you should prove yourself that you are right . Any person can say you that you said me that thing , and  you will accept it , without proof . You  lied that i said that thing , because  you are not giving me proof .  It's not fair , dear . Don't start your discussion , without any proof . Ok
                      • just mercedesGold member
                        on Jul 23 10:13 AM
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                        Please don't call me a liar. It's not polite.
                        • Mehak
                          on Jul 23 10:20 AM
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                          If you are not liar , paste me that  thread , where i said that thing . Otherwise i can't  believe you . Show me your proof that you are right .
                          • just mercedesGold member
                            on Jul 23 10:24 AM
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                            Show me your proof that you are right about Plato.
                            • Mehak
                              on Jul 23 10:33 AM
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                              Read the other discussion of me . I think , you didn't read all comments carefully .  If you really read literature , you should know that literature is wide. Those who really read  literature , they have  shared their knowledge , which they have read . Madam , literature is not race . It depends on your subject that which subject you have read , in your study .  If a person paste any quote of any poet , from any site , it doesn't mean that he knows all history of that poet  . Because his knowledge is limited . True literary people  understand other literary mind , not a common mind .

                              Again you are ignoring my main question , which i asked you about poem .  There is much difference in sharing the literary  knowledge and  in other common discussion . In common discussion , you should have proof , for showing you right , otherwise you blame others that you said me that thing . Ok . Why i accept your point , without any proof . Now when ever you will not paste me that thread , where i mention the poem ''The Rime of the Ancient Marine'' , i will not talk to you . You are blaming me  ,and i accept your that blame simple, why? .
                    • Mehak
                      on Jul 23 10:11 AM
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                      Paste me that thread , where i said that thing that other also read it . Prove it that you are right and i am wrong .
                      • just mercedesGold member
                        on Jul 23 10:15 AM
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                        You will have altered the thread by now - pointless to try and find it.

                        I teach English to speakers of other languages. Do you want to enrol in a course?
                        • Mehak
                          on Jul 23 10:19 AM
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                          Don't change your topic. If you have  proof that where i said about the poem ''The Rime of the Ancient Marine'' , talk to me ,otherwise stop your pointless discussion .  How can you become a good teacher that you can't give proof other , for  showing you right .  Students also can't accept that type of teacher  , because they rise many questions , and a teacher should have proof of his answers .. That type of teacher can be good and brilliant in his own eyes , but in other eyes . Ok
                          • just mercedesGold member
                            on Jul 23 10:26 AM
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                            Where is the proof of your statement about Plato's death?

                            Why do you require from others that which you are not willing to provide yourself?

                            • Mehak
                              on Jul 23 10:35 AM
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                              Don't try to become over smart ,  please.  Just show me the proof to paste me the thread ,  . I've tired to asking you that paste me that thread , where i cited ''The Rime of the Ancient Marine'' .  I just  want to see that thing . Otherwise you are 100% liar .
                • Mehak
                  on Jul 23 10:00 AM
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                  You are ignoring me main point , which i am asking you again and again .
                  • just mercedesGold member
                    on Jul 23 10:05 AM
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                    You're boring. I did go back and try to find it and couldn't. However, knowing your habit of changing your original posts when an error has been pointed out to you, I would be very surprised if you haven't already done this.
                    • Mehak
                      on Jul 23 10:15 AM
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                      You are hiding your lack of vision to show your that behaviour . You can't show any proof , for showing you right . Ok .  Many people have commented here . and they have discussed my points with me . It is only you , who  don't want to understand me . Ok . You are also not according to my vision and taste . So , Good  Bye , for ever .
      • eaSilver member
        on Jul 15 01:32 PM
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        Hmm... Musta been the Fun Factory.
        • Mehak
          on Jul 17 08:12 AM
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          Yes , it is  obviously fun factory for those who have no knowledge . Because they can't do any thing  than fun.
          • eaSilver member
            on Jul 19 10:41 PM
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            It seems that meetings of the minds have minds of their own and don't mind if they don't.
            • Mehak
              on Jul 20 03:49 AM
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              We can discuss things that time , when our mind  are same . Only a literary person can understand and  take interest in literature . Otherwise , the people , who have not literary mind or have not interest in literature , they will  think that it is mime .  I always wish  to discuss literature with literary people . It can be you or an other person  too .  Because i think it is a good place for meeting the literary people .
              • eaSilver member
                on Jul 20 03:57 AM
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                Can you come back and discuss this once you've gotten your B1 certificate in English, please? 
                • Mehak
                  on Jul 20 06:56 AM
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                  Sure . If you are interested in it , i will discuss it with you . Some things you tell me about him  , and some information ,  i will tell you .
                  • eaSilver member
                    on Jul 20 07:49 AM
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                    Here's what I want to know from Plato:  is he enjoying the proms, what does he think of the Olympics being in London, and will a Brit win the Tour of France? (That last one is more like a prediction from Plato, but he has to hurry up and cast it.)
  • eaSilver member
    on Jul 14 09:18 AM
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    Now or a year from now?
  • eaSilver member
    on Jul 20 04:19 AM
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    What was he weeding?

    • Mehak
      on Jul 20 07:14 AM
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      Plato has no systematic theory  of art but only scattered  opinions . Plato's low estimate of ''art'' appears also in the theory of art as imitation and his contemptuous  references to the nature of artistic genius .  He says about art that it is the copy of an object of the senses , as this again is only  a copy of an idea . Hence a work of art is only a copy of copy . Plato did not recognise   the creativeness of art  .  This view is certainly false . If the aims of art were merely to imitate , a photograph would be the best picture , since it is the most accurate copy of its subject . What  Plato failed to see was that  the artist  does not see the object , but idealizes it . And this mean  that he does not  see the object simply as an object , but as the revelation of an idea . He does not see the phenomenon  with the eyes of other men , but  penetrates the sensuous envelope and exhibits the ideas shining through the veils of sense.  
      • eaSilver member
        on Jul 20 07:51 AM
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        You make him sound like he was made of concrete, not Play-do at all!
        • Mehak
          on Jul 21 10:33 AM
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          Did you read his complete life history and work ?. Just i  am not  saying that , all philosopher and critic also say it . Hes says very wise and beautiful things , but he doesn't know that why they are wise and beautiful . He merely feels , on  the level of knowledge , but only of the right opinion , which knows what is true , but doesn't know why. That thing his student ''Aristotle'' felt  , and he was opposed his master . When you will read it complete history they you will know the depth of that criticism on him .
          • eaSilver member
            on Jul 21 11:22 AM
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            When I thought about this thread yesterday, The Weather Song came on.  That must tell you something.
    • Mehak
      on Jul 20 07:15 AM
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      If you know some thing about Plato's concept of  ''art'' , tell me please.
      • eaSilver member
        on Jul 20 07:50 AM
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        The only thing I know about Plato is that Carl Sagan said he was wrong.
  • eaSilver member
    on Jul 21 11:17 AM
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    Open up your windows and lean out real far and listen.  The music fest is in full swing and they are playing the Bryan Adams song again, I swear! 

  • just mercedesGold member
    on Jul 21 12:08 PM
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    I note that you have changed the Original Post - but you have not credited your sources. Surely you were taught to do that, at your university? Please credit the source of your information, if you wish scholars to communicate with you.

    • Mehak
      on Jul 23 09:35 AM
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      You meant , i changed my  question . Dear , i didn't change my question here , i just mentioned the answer , which i know  .  
      • just mercedesGold member
        on Jul 23 09:39 AM
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        No, I didn't mean that.

        I'm used to people like you, who alter their posts when they realize they've made a mistake, and then cause arguments about what the post originally said.

        You still haven't credited your sources.
  • azure85Gold member
    on Jul 23 04:49 AM
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    There are actually 3 different versions of his death: Tertullian states he died in his sleep, Diogenes Laertius states it was at a wedding feast, and a partial manuscript from the Platonica says he died in his sleep while listening to some nice flute music by a Thracian girl. 

    Diogenes Laertius, Life of Plato, V.
    Riginos, Alice, Platonica : the anecdotes concerning the life and writings of Plato. Leiden: E.J. Brill, 1976,  p. 194.
    James V. Schall, S. J., “On the Death of Plato,” The American Scholar 65, (Summer 1996).

    • Mehak
      on Jul 23 09:33 AM
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      Thank you so much for giving me different information about ''Plato'' . I read it that's why i mentioned here .  This thing i am saying here that share you knowledge too with me .  I will read it in detail , which you have told me .

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