As they travelled the known lands, Kevin and his disciples came up against many hurdles. The foul tongued throng surrounded them, spewing vulgarities and invectives, seeking to dislodge their beliefs with a vengeance. 1
Kevin sought counsel with his followers, and after much discussion said onto them "I am going to make a final to decision, and I embrace that responsibility". He went away from them for a time to reflect and ponder upon his duty. He struggled with his decision many days and nights. 2
Left alone, his disciples continued to spread the word of poetry and decency to the masses, being received in varying degrees, from adoration to detestation. They were stoned on many occasions, with slander and personal affronts, but they kept their poise and showed the world the true face of Allpoetry. 3
After many days of travel and still no sign of Kevin's return, they came upon the small city of Ap, where they were received warmly at first. They were fed and bathed and treated with respect, but after the wine had flowed, loose lips set to waggle and crudeness blasphemy abounded. Word came from Kevin's messenger. "Let there be swearing in public. Stories with curse words are no longer required to be in the adult category, and author pages no longer have to be 'G' rated, rather closer to PG-13. They are still not allowed in the chatterbox, and any swearing 'at' someone is considered harassment". The city of 50,000 souls erupted in profanity and vulgarity. 4
The disciples were pulled at from all sides, by those who would spread the filth, and by those who resented it. Many cried out "Why have you forsaken us?" The rebukers cried out "@#^& *%#@ %$#" and they laughed with evil glee. The disciples decided to not travel alone for a while as the lands grew dark. Without moderation the filth spread to the writings and the author pages of its residents, becoming home to unspeakable debauchery. 5
The disciples were unable to stem the flow. Some fell away from their movement, unable to withstand the spiral downwards of morals and decency. The others trudged on in the belief that they could convince their master to regulate the blasphemy within their community. 6
Some days later Kevin rejoined them and brought down his final word and some semblance of goodness was returned to the land, but many disconcerted souls continued to speak their filth everywhere and they were cast out. Kevin beseeched the people saying "fear not, for I have seen the light and all will be well in the kingdom of Allpoetry".7
Author notes
this piece was written without the knowledge of any other mods, they had no part in its creation and i take all the heat that this may bring upon myself. i did put it by kevin before posting to be sure it fell within moderator guidelines. this is *satire*, maybe not good satire but satire none the less. we do not liken ourselves to the disciples in any way, we are more like the lambs among the lions.
What did you think? Please comment!
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puck
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hockey stick
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Haha! Nice satire...really effective. Good work!
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Question pounders...is it good or bad that you called us lions..BUT I think that should be switched..we are the innoncent lambs...yall are the lions with tickets!
this was AWESOME and sosooooooooooooooo funny!
Kari
beginning: 5, language: 5, plot: 5, ending: 5, dialog: 5, characters: 5.
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LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this was the BEST for laughing.... i never thought ii'd find something like this.
beginning: 5, language: 5, plot: 5, ending: 5, dialog: 5, characters: 5.
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Satsriakal Terry
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satsriakal Charishma, you went back a ways for this one. I hadnt seen this one for quite some time, I still like it . thanks for reading Char...peace Terry (edit?)
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This is an awesome write, Terry! I love it to the core, to bits and pieces. I think you did a great job on this. The red font is exceptionally creative and adds to the beauty of the write.
It's strange how people have criticised such a well written piece because of their tiny pea-sized brains or whatever they believe is good is good, and what is bad, is bad. It's strange how many different mindsets of people have logged on to AP, and do continue to log on, every minute of every day, sparking the pages of this lovely land, with filth or bad words or something indencent, something not G-rated. It's quite a challenge for Moderators to work wash out all the fire from the sacred AP land
And, I totally agree with you that the Moderators are like the lamb among the lions. But, the lamb is mighty too, and they better know it who have cacti lips 
hehe...couldn't come up with a better description. LOL.
The point of the matter really is, what you said here is perfectly well said and true, atleast I stand by you for what you have written here. A friend of mine told me a few months back that we each have two eyes, and each eye perceives the world differently. I can see how true that is now here on AP sometimes.
I'm glad Haikumonk spoke very well on this And, I'm always here and second what he has said.
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Worm is wrong again. You are not Ed Peterson. In fact, you intended this as a Satire! A veiled attack on the sanctimoniousness of site management. Very good. Some will read it literally, but irony always did presuppose a double audience.
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Ah, I get it now. You are a spoof. Nice one Eduardo.
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what i find sad is how many people took this so seriously, this was only ever meant as a tongue in cheek look at the situation, this was never meant to be a board discussion on the subject, but it seems everything that I write in this series causes a fuss, but will that stop me from writing more...not bloody likely. as for the red font.. how could i not, i only wish i could have written it on parchment paper and read it from a montain top
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actually, I find this more offensive than the F word.
I am personally offended that youve suggested that people that put the F word in their poems, titles, or author pages, are "speaking filth".
It is quite amusing however that you use a biblical reference for this piece, as I had stated in my last comment to your other post, that reading religious poetry, Jesus references and others condeming other people for not having the same "morals" they do.
Who decided that the F word was immoral? I havent ever read it in the bible. Nor have I read any of the others that I can think of. Who says its a bad word? Did someone get a list from Jesus?
Ohhhhhhhh yeah.....it was MEN. Men wrote the bible, and MEN decided it was a bad word.
Ill tell you one thing.....if a man had ever had to give BIRTH, the F word wouldnt have been considered "Sinful" because even if you dont utter it, Im betting most women that have ever squeezed something with a 13 inch head, 23 inches long and 8-9 pounds out of something that only dialates to 10 centimeters, have at least THOUGHT it.
this is just really sad.
Everyone seems to be worried about the "children" seeing the F word on author pages, when you should really be worried about them observing ADULTS acting like 2 year olds.
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Mountains out of molehills. Frankly, after having seen the piece which sparked the most recent outburst of controversy, I can't help but believe it is over-exuberance in enforcing the rules that led to a decision to loosen them.
I found the outburst at the change pretty annoying, but not surprising... it was an outburst. It's already died down.
Didn't find the satire particularly funny (Christ and the apostles is just too easy) and the point seemed a little unclear as "the final word" is never revealed within the story. While you seem to be a doubting Thomas, I suspect Kevin is correct. -
I love sattire, my mom is in a play now called "The Colored Funeral", it is unbridled sattire about funerals, and I laugh and then think, OMG that is not funny! The same here, this is very sattirical. It amazes me that we can do nothing about the feature box but profane language is an issue. LOL Since you are a Moderator could you suggest to Almighty Kevin, that people that do not comment on featured poetry should have to pay a sin tax or something to that nature. LOL It seems that featured poetry has been an issue far longer than the freedom to swear. Your story is very ingenious. No wonder you are a Moderator, you are very clever. I love the reference to discipleship, it does not just give reference to God's apostles. We can all have some form of discipleship. There was really no need to apologize, if people didn't get it then shame on them. LOL Great story, very easy to follow, and yes I chuckled in several places.
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Creative as ever, Ogreatbaldone...
You have a clever sense of reality-based fiction!! Hopefully, one day you condense all of your gospels into one coherent book. You could call it "the [second]greatest book ever written...lol. Or the AP Gospels...or Cathol-AP-ism?
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geee I can't believe the people who ae getting bent out of shape over this.
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what I find funny is that you would post this
"and if I didn't support your freedom as an artist I would ask for it to be removed on those grounds."
in your comment, yet try to browbeat me into deleting a creation of my own. and, when you couldn't get me to delete it, you managed to get a mod to do it.
how's that for creative freedom?
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"I wonder what Basho, Chaucer.... and a few other rather decent poets would do?"
You are kidding, right? Chaucer is the author of "The Miller's Tale" -- arguably the earliest extant piece of admired ribald poetry in the English labguage. I read this whole debate concerning ogreatbaldone's post with amusement, and will keep my own views on the subject to myself. However, if you want to choose an English poet whose poetry more meets your points, you probably should use Milton or Donne instead of Chaucer. -
So though they came out and said that they are now allowing it they are actually being hypocritical and contradicting themselves and not really going through with what they stated they were now going to do?
Then why say you can do it if you're just going to take it back? Did they think there wouldn't have been an array of extreme uses of the word after the big announcement? See, myself, and my other aliases all have come to an agreement that it would have been better to say nothing at all and when and if someone actually did use profanity on their authors page that nothing would be done about it, it just be another day. But I do realize Administration doesn't have my brains, and sometimes that's a good thing and sometimes it's just the way things are.
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Maybe it's because I am relatively new here, but I simply do not understand what the fuss is over this. Jesus Christ, superstar, when did people become so god damn sensitive over this shit? Perhaps that explains the divergence of the so-called blue/red states, where people are so insecure with themselves and their beliefs that they feel such a need to pounce on anythings that violates their thought systems.
I just stopped in again to read these comments, which inspired another response from me. For what it's worth, Great Write, no harm done, fuck 'em if they can't take a joke and keep penning!
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thanks MC , glad to see you got your password problems figured out...thanks for @#$%^ reading ...peace
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The rebukers cried out "@#^& *%#@ %$#"
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What clever satire, as only someone well-versed in the politics of AP could produce. I like how Kevin's words were colored red; like Jesus in the bible.
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it is a freedom of speech thing i guess.i don't have to agree with what you write but i do respect you for exercising your right to free speechthe same way i applaud poetryality's right.
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actually... it is sad.... we still are NOT allowed to use profanity...
author pages are still being edited when they shouldnt be - per kevins request...
it is sad that some members just having fun are not allowed to do so and actually have changed their author pages
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This was hilarious of course Kevin approved it-- he is Jesus damn i can't stop cying laughing-- i'll have to come back when i can piece together a coherent sentence on form or some such nonsense lol
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take it as you wish. I stand by it. I asked all the other mods for their input once i posted it and i made the changes that the ones who replied asked for. As for calling anyone names..i dont name one person in this other than Kevin and he was ok with it, so it falls within the site guidelines. That you didnt get the humor in it does not bother me at all. I know why i wrote it, and i know that i will still sleep at night regardless of what people think of it.
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What amuses me the most about this piece is not the satirical humor comparing moderators to disciples and religious figures (which is quite honestly very offensive, and I know moderators who are sickened by it. I won't name names as well, more than likely it would only get them FIRED; seems to be the way of things around allpo these days, but what amuses me is that you get VERY defensive with people when for all practical purposes, we are the ones who have a right to be offended in all of this, as you clearly state that you think those who chose to use the word F** are filthy and up to debauchery. I find this personally offensive, and if I didn't support your freedom as an artist I would ask for it to be removed on those grounds. This attacks many friends of mine who have reveled in a new freedom.
It would have died off without your attack, trust me, but you will likely only make things worse by attacking those you disagree with at this point.
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way to go, now youve scared the monk away, now who will protect me from the masses? thanks for stopping by to read...peace
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lol... good point Jenn... hahaha... geeeeez... I think my brain is done with this one....
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I'd take Shakespeare out of that list if I were you.... He was well known at the time for his use of curse words in his writing. The guy was even censored
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The "liberal" comment was a joke... or a poor attempt at one. It is plain and simple: I am still in the mindset of "common decency"...... nothing else to say. Well, I'm also in the mindset to protect children's innocence to a certain degree so they can lead childrens' lives.... not adult ones.
I don't hang out with vulgarity in general..... just kind of how I live my life. I don't judge the people.... whatever people want to do is dandy with me.... but I don't have to be there. Heck, someone may choose to kill a store clerk.... I don't have to accept that either... or be there at some level to watch or share.
Are your kids growing up in that kind of environment? Do you talk like some author pages here in front of your grandmother? Do you go to church and fill the hymns with expletives?
By the way.... there are laws in this country as well as world wide that protect children on the internet to a certain degree.... and thank goodness for that or those children's lives would be worthless. You know that.
I'm fine with anything goes in poetry. I'm fine with having that in a protected environment where children aren't accidentally exposed to it. But I'm not fine with openly posting vulgarity in general on author pages. I really must be getting old.... cuz I don't see how an author page is such an important place to express the vulgar aspect of life itself.... hahaha... I really don't understand that.
And yes... it is important in the BIG scheme of things. We are constantly redefining the quality of life on this planet.... and I think we need to be a little careful about that... at least respectful.
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I'm not certain why my politics come into play, here. Not to mention, the views I expressed are much more libertarian than liberal, if you must categorize them. I hold those views even when I disagree with the politics of the person posting something. You may ask other mods, but I have, on many occassions, argued that offensive right wing poetry and author's pages should be allowed. I think that I was the only mod who argued that the picture of a dead foetus that a anti-abortion poet wanted to put on her anti-abortion poem was critical in her adopting that view and hence, in her opinion, a necessary part of the poem. I thought it should be allowed. I really hope you don't think that swearing by liberals is all I care about.
Words don't corrupt the innocence of children, people's reactions to them mold children.
I don't swear that much in casual speech. I do when I'm going into a persona in jest, I am simply stating the word to refer to it because I am talking about profanity, and sometimes to insult in jest. I used to more when I was younger and it was a shocking novelty. (In fact, I think you'll find most of the people whose author's pages you find questionable are under the age of 18. Making a big deal about it justifies their rebellion.) When I was a teenager I thought those obnoxious buttons that said things like "I'm not as fuck as you drunk I am" were funny. I don't anymore. I grew out of it. But, those were there in the mall. Spencers sold them. Kids bought them. Some kids parents figured it was a phase and didn't hurt anything and just let us buy them. Some kids parents thought they were horrible and tried to keep their kids out of the stores. Some of those parents' kids stayed out of Spencers, most didn't. All of us grew out of it, though. When I speak of swearing, I'm not speaking of someone yelling and screaming, drowning out the ability of others to converse comfortably, disturbing the peace. When I walk through the mall (and I do it rarely) I often hear swearing -- mainly from groups of kids, but occassionally from adults, too. The swearing from kids is usually part of the whole image they are trying to portray. The swearing is secondary to the rest of it. If I were to give them any advice, I'd tell them the need to adhere to an image is limiting and uninteresting, that it marks them as young and un-experienced.
Maybe your vision of the site is what you would see in some midwest town: common values, franchised restaraunts -- generally friendly, as long as you don't offend their morals. I think I see it as more cosmoplitan -- a whole range of stuff, from the most brilliant, to the most vile, to all in between. That is what allpoetry means to me. That is what I saw when I became adicted to the site and that is what I liked about it. Lots of kids grow up in that kind of an environment, too, and survive into adulthood just fine.
"it is my personal right" .. yes, it is your right to disagree with someone's views, to say so, and to avoid that person. Personal rights should stop when they try to interfere with what others do. This is not a country, it is allpoetry, though. There is no "constitution" and no "rights". There is just a sense of how we would like to see the site evolve. You are now the boss and so your view is law. So, I am not complaining about my "personal rights". I'm expressing lament that this site is evolving in such a way that will chase off the poets I find really interesting and feel intellectually inspired by. But things will evolve as they do and it really isn't that important in the whole big scheme of things.
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No... that's nonsense Birchy.... this is a public environment... adults and children alike... and the average age is dropping quickly actually if you would like to know the facts. You wouldn't use language like that at the mall either... not loudly in front of little children... and if you did... I personally would have the right to think it is wrong... why is it people only get to be right if they agree with a liberal...lol... it always amazes me the names that come out regarding someone who just wants to maintain a quality, dignified life... even Clinton in many ways is very dignified.... I'm sure not using filth in his general talk amongst children as easy as some of our members use it on their author page.... sorry Birchy.... I'll never, ever agree that it is ok to have this junk posted on a public author page.... never ever... but beyond me being a mod... it is my personal right..... that doesn't mean I'm judgemental... it means I have a personal opinion... and as far as I know that is still legal.
Children will hit an author page, then figure they should put it on ignore... it is too late... and not within fair play on our part to take that chance.... children are innocent... until adults ruin them.... I believe that... and, I will no matter how bashed I get here.
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thanks for the glowing endorsement
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This . . . I don't even know where to begin. It makes me almost ashamed to be a moderator, a job I am usually quite proud of and that I feel I do well. But to be ranked among the disciples who cringe at the onslaught of debauchery and filth makes me flinch. I fully support what Kevin decided to do and as other commenters have stated: it will die down. This is a new freedom, people are giddy with it. To say they are filthy and debaucherous because of it is, to me, a very judgemental and self righteously hypocritical thing to say and I can not abide that sort of thing.
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seems to be quite a stirring in your words boss. i have to agree that i don't like seeing and and hearing it on every turn. i do that enough day in and day out and i don't even care if they want to fill their poetry with it, although i'm not sure i personally would call it poetry then, but i think to have to look at it on aithor pages or in that squawk box thing is just plain unnecessary. some people won't ever get it. seems like spoiled brats run amok here if you ask me.
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I'd compare this more to a mall than a McDonalds. A McDonald's is meant for kids. There are a lot of people here who want nothing to do with kids. If one walks through a mall, one catches conversations with lots of profanity and some with none. The difference here is that here you can put someone on ignore.
If an adult is actively persuing kids for the purpose of corrupting them, I suppose that might be different. But most people are writing for an audience they think will appreciate them; which usual means an audience of like minded individuals. Allowing some profanity doesn't change things that much. What it does is put the emphasis on a user choosing to ignore poets who offend them rather than bring the authorities down on them.
There is some language certain people find offensive. I find many things offensive. I try not to, but people's whose values diverge from mine too much are offensive to me and I choose not to spend that much time socializing with them and usually in those situations I don't find their poems interesting, either, and so I don't read them much. I do find this offensive, but I don't think it should be taken down. I find this offensive because it is basically calling me indecent and part of the evil hordes because I don't think "decency" is determined by word choice, but by attitude. I know he doesn't mean to say that, but he is. It bothers me that that attitude towards me is going to be governing me on this site.
Lots of mods do this at some point, though .. make a big personal post about modding that manages to offend a bunch of people they are supposed to be "watching over". It isn't the end of the world.
When I got to AP there were no mods that I was aware of. There was an occassional asshole that ran amok on the site, and some people were more openly profane than others. But, there were many ages represented and were able to deal with it. I think it is easier to deal with things if you interfer as little as possible. As soon as you interfer, you are making a value judgement about someone else's work/like/values, whatever. You are judging them. And, as offensive as some languange is, I think it is much more offensive to have authority come down and tell you that what you think is worthwhile is actually vile and disgusting and should be controlled.
The swearing will die down to the normal background noise once the novelty fades.
I think it would be really helpful if Kevin could get a clear guideline from his server about what isn't allowed. When I first became a mod, my understanding was that the restriction was based on outside requirements -- what was needed to be done so that poetry didn't lose its server. Beyond that, I think it will make the lives of mods much easier, and the atmosphere of allpoetry much more comfortable, if we adopt a culture that encourages people to take it apon themselves to ignore something rather than to bring the hand of God down to stop it. -
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Thank you Sir Monk. I too have no problem with swearing as long as it is done with a purpose within a piece of writing, but i take offence also with those that would use it for the sake of it, and having it all available to younger children doesnt sit well with me. thanks for your comments and bringing a little sanity to this page. I knew it was you ...peace Terry
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Lol... go to a McDonalds with your children and start using words such as f*, c*, a* licker etc... and do it loud enough for people to hear. See what happens then. This is a community that is not private but rather public. Anyone can drop in on a author page and see the garbage that some folks decided to post. My point was not the vulgarity in poetry but rather on the author page.... I think it is totally irresponsible to post things of that nature for just anyone to see.... call me old fashioned a bit... yes.... call me stupid... no.... am I kidding... no.... I teach hundreds of children every day about honesty, self esteem, dignity, honor, respect and the like... now tell me how this decision here has added to that... tell me how it has added to our culture. In poems... well, I'm fine with that.. of course.... but in the open without dignity... is the same as having sex with someone on the couch in front of your children... and I will never, ever agree with that.
I like your write....
It is not the language that is unprofessional Terry... it is the people.... and their immaturity on how they handle mature subjects. That is what I'm talking about.... not the language itself.... I love using all the words I can in poetry.... plain and simple... but I choose not to use the same graphic language in front of one of my five year old students... or ten year olds... or fifteen year olds..... there is dignity... and it is missing here.... in some people.... take care...
By the way... I like the write... enough to sponsor it two times...
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well i would hardly call words "unspeakable debauchery"; hopefully your tongue is planted firmly in your cheek, and neither would you. there are greater hills to die on than the one of profanity.
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Alright, everyone has best stop criticizing my Uncle. I will not have it. Ya'll best start leaving some nice, encouraging comments here. This is well written...and frankly if you ya'll have a problem with the content, then don't leave a comment..its that simple ya'll. Okay I am done with my rant now, thanx for listening
Anywho, this is a very well written piece Uncle, I enjoyed it a lot and found nothing wrong with it. Please continue to speak your brillant mind.
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I LOVE the form you've used here! Not only that, but I agree with the sentiment that inspired this satire...and it's profanely funny satire, at that, oh great bald one! Nice job! My day sucked, but now I've laughed (thank you) and I feel that much better. So, be applauded for wit, valour, and humour. It is good. *smile* Keep it up! -
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lol- I probably should've looked at the category before I went on my rant then huh? lol. It's just I've found a lot of people ranting and raving about this and it's driving me nuts, lol. My AP, my haven, is turning into some kind of political nightmare and all I can do is stand back and watch or get wrapped up in the stupidity Sorry for the mistake, I'll pay more attention next time- promise
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it seems that the religious theme does touch a nerve, but i come from a christian upbringing and i take no offence to it at all . I like tackling the tough issues and making fun at them and i like to make fun of myself from time to time as well. thanks for reading...peace
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hm I am not sure I like the religious frame you put this in, but it is interesting that you approached this.
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thanks zeek. i have no problem with swearing or suggestive themes or even vulgarity, if it is in context of the piece it is written for. my objections lie with those who are vulgar just for the sake of being vulgar. This was only ever meant as a satirical piec on a serious subject. I got your analogy very well and understand where you are coming from, but it seems most didnt get the humor in this, oh well such is life. thanks for reading...peace
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hmmm....
I can see you are getting quite a bit of criticism for this, so I won't add to it. Let me instead present you with an analogy. A law is passed preventing anyone from singing. There's an uproar- some people sing to protest, some silently petition. Soon the law folds under the pressure. Suddenly EVERYWHERE you go people are singing on the streets, singing in their homes as loudly as they can and singing with pride. After awhile some people still sing- but the issue is forgotten and it goes back to normal- with the people who would've sang anyway* still singing and those who hate singing shaking their heads and petitioning it to get banned again. They are the singers and you are the one trying to ban it. Yeah- some of us really hate singing, especially if they sing badly, but then we just turn off the radio or switch it to a station that has something we like better on- letting the people who want to sing go at it and those who like to listen to be free to do so. Strange analogy I know, I'm in an odd mood. But does this make sense?
I personally don't swear much at all save for a few rant poems, but I know plenty of AMAZING poets on here who have left AP or been left furious because of the censorship the site places. I think Kevin was right in lifting the huge swearing ban, and I think that if you don't like vulgar poems, you should start clicking on poets who don't swear, lol, not being mean or hostile. Just honest.
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I dont get it
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And it was good. It was very good. And amusing.
Thanks for the smile
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I came here by way of your author's page, so not to waste your points, very funny stuff here, liked it bunches, laughed so hard it made me pee; xoxo, candi -
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I have a allergic reaction to religions, relligiousness.
I used to think the kevin=god thing was funny....
**CRAAAAAAAAACKKKK BANG BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM*****
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I am going to make a final to decision, and I embrace that responsibility
I didn't get that sentence.
I thought the whole idea of making Kevin into a sort of Jesus figure with all the desciples was pretty funny though. And I was so glad to see swearing was aloud on author pages and in some poems not classified as adult. People need to realize that sometimes swearing can be used in poetry without making it "Unpoetic"
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this is worthy of limmericks....
there once was a poet named UB
her mouth rambled and spit up dooodie
she thinks she's hot
ok so a tight ass she's got
but really its implants made of money
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I loved this, it was awesome. I loved that you put the words of Kevin in red. Great job on this. I got the impression that you are against the changes, but I could be wrong. While I'm in favor of the changes but not vularity, I applaud you voicing your opinion in this extremely clever manner! Bravo!
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MR. D, your comment inspired a haiku from me in 5-7-5 form. and it falls into the traditional restrictions of being about nature,
they crawl on my work
moderators, like aphids
eating my writings
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I MISSSSSS YOU !!!!!!
omg your here........
you freak... you come out of the wood work like this....
I always have to stop and get like... 3 shots of something to make it through your posts and have them make sense LOL...
hee heee
my little chicken head....
yeah i know it was meant in humor.... that wasnt my problem...
i got the humor that is for sure
just didnt like being thrown into some religious group as a disciple thingy.. you know how I am on shit like that... one person isnt going to speak for me- and omg not with religion included... but
all is forgive so long as everyone knows I am not in this lol...
before I post something about the mods if its like this I would put it at the boards.... dunno just me
and here I air laundry.. but eh.... all is forgiven and all found funny.... -
i have a great sense of humor...ask me, i'll tell ya it's so
If this had been put in a different context, perhaps it would
have been humorous...but to liken moderators to disciples and Kevin to God....well...yuck
Maybe Mythology would have worked better here...you know, Kevin as Zeus...Goz as the Goddess of Love...hahahahahaha
hey, that is funny...
UB
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you are right.. it was not meant to sound that way at all. If i posted everything that flowed from my pen , i'd have been tarred and feathered a long time ago. call it sarcastic humor or biting humor ,or even bad humor , but humor was the Only intention with this piece.
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it seems NO one has a sense of humor anymore. i took a situation that is tense and felt by many on this site and tried to instill humor in it. I am not an egotistical person and for you to make that assumption on one piece of writing doesnt put your opinion high on my list.
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LOL @ goz
what exactly are you signing....
ut oh...i don't think this is the time or place to go there...
my little post went on and on didn't it?
i have to agree that the religious/moral overtones were condecending ... I am sure OGBO was not meaning it to sound that way, it is one of those things that just pops out of ones unconscious, funny how that happens, good thing it isn't illegal or profane to be superioristic (?????????)
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UB
hee heee
and I do have to say that ummmm I am NOT included in this religious mod thingy....
shit... i would burn up if i set forth in a church....
humor or not....
ummm some of the things best not joked about are womens weight, religion and sports teams ... just my opinion
me? arrogant... I am so flattered I am arrogant with taste LOL
xoxox
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you are right it was not meant to be anything than a satirical look at the situaton, nothing more, for those who read more into it, well thats their problem. I am glad a few like yourself can see it for what it is...peace
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Interesting..... The reaction to this piece I mean.
There is some vague validity in their statements. Though I believe that you have every right to bring your point up, perhaps using the 12 disciples wasn't the best option. It does imply a superiority to others, which is condensending. I don't think you meant it that way, did you?
At any rate, I took it all humorous jab to something that clearly bothered you. But then again, I'm quite sick of the rampant vulgarity going on, not only in the 'virtual' world, but in the 'real' as well. So it could just be that I'm biased. -
ummmmm...hmmmmm....ummmmm...
ya know, i am not really sure at all of what to say on this.
Truth be told, of all the groups of moderators to ever hit
the site (besides Jammin JD and Goosey Goz )...this is
the least impressive group to ever "grace" the site.
And truly, Goz is arrogant...just ask her...she'll tell you
it's so...lol...but man, this is some of the most arrogant stuff i have ever seen come from someone who is calling themself a site moderator. Rather embarrassing to read, really...you can call this humor if you want
to...i see it as really bad taste. This is by far much more
offensive than any of those "naughty" words that might be
seen floating around the site.
Critical review: humor? no. weird? yes. humility needed? you betcha.
UB
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humbug
Ogreatbaldone,
You know that feeling, when, someone is apparently addressing You, yet somehow, their eyes or mind seems to be fixated on something else? like a preset conclusion, like an agenda, like a belief in something you cannot see? like, communication isn't really happening.... i feel it here.
I have been mostly away from participating in this site for a long time now. I have heard about a lot of the AP issues through Birchwood. I have to say, from the perspective of enjoying the rich experience that poetry is to me, I have to say that with respect to creativity, less supervisory action is more. I was amazed and even proud of the organic way the site evolved. The was a distribution of poets and poetry, a spectrum of smiles and sadnesses, beauty and bitterness, serious and sincerity and all in all, it was pretty good. a little bit of absolutely everything. I had no problem abiding the few rules that there were.... these seemed sort of minimalist given the responsibility kevin had to whomever hosted the site.
There are people who exist only to bust balls of those in authority, these people will always exist I imagine, I bet many grow away from it... give time and space, it gets boring.
It is funny though: to the rule makers and especially those who like to make rules for the shear joy of it, they find their match in those who break them for the shear joy of it, everyone else gets by and tries to have fun w/o pissing too many people off. To many people who have spent much time getting around rules to get what they need, or what they want, any rule is a massive infraction on their dignity and purity and pride, so that, whether or not the rule has any impact on what they really want, they will fight it all kicking and screaming.
I see a lot of sides to this. The extreme personalities set each other off, and what we have here is a garden of eden for working through these conflicts.... these are just words...ideas...text....if they move you one way or the other...feel happy....that means you are alive.... ideas are ideas...nothing more...until action is taken....then there is action... we are responsible to the truth of ourself first and foremost, it can be the scariest thing imaginable. I used to love AP it seemed like a place where both friends and perfect strangers would become an honest mirrors for each other...as honest as they could be given the context at the time.... I had some nice breakthroughs writing here and I am forever grateful to artists who gave me some heart in their feedback...sometimes it hurt very deeply... others i found myself laughing my ass completely
off.
There seems like there has been this push to keeps everyones lawn mowed on their homepage...why? to raise property values?
now there is a backlash, which, to the rule-monger in you, justifies the trend towards censorship. Let me tell you, once people feel free, relaxed and untethered, they will just do what feels right at the moment, which, isn't all THAT bad/extreme/sick/rebellious/scary... ofcourse, it won't be all that pure/pious/deep/centered/grownup/wholesome
either, if you could look at it all from some detached perspective. It would reflect some state of nature though...
I don't know if I have made my point really, somehow, in the dark murky mosh pit of life, the forces of stability stand tall in the face of those of chaotic change...this is life...exactly like the oceans and sand and sawdust on linolium massive crumbling sandcastles..skies darken with wind-borne seeds more far flung than ever because global warming and global techno feeding frenzies many thanks to
our insane military industrial complex who
invented it to keep itself networked and united
coherent in action against a perceived enemy.
we used to only ooze this into ink
now it is electron patterns.
The life in this allpoetry flame
is fragile and absolutely dependent on individuals to protect and support it., I think it will be the richness of the variation here that is what make this site so active, lively, and ultimately, sucessful. -
i love poetry and attempt to write it... and quite frankly need my debauchery... without it... what would we be writing about... oh i know... haikus on flower pedals glistening in my hatred...
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ridicule away, were used to it
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When I asked are you all for real I meant the mods..you all. This story. Not the commenters. They are as astonished as I am at this piece of general fiction. Yes it is in the humor category but many a harsh word has been spoken under the guise of humor which is what I think this is doing.
And to liken yourselves to Christ and his diciples is hilarious but not in the way you think. You have set yourselves up for ridicule and I'm sure there are those who think this is just dandy but I think it's just.....silly. Sorry.
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im pretty sure im not him, or at least i wasnt the last time i checked
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You laid your piece before the poetry god? Hey are you sure you aren't Ernest Kuntz?
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I never said those who use foul language were less intelligent, but there are those who push the limits for no other reason than to push the limits. those people ,who are a minority, cause the majority of issues on this site.
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i never claimed to be a poet
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that is the first time my work has been described as ugly. did you not see that this was in the humor category? as for kevin telling any of his staff to "shut the f* up" , that will never happen, I put this piece by him before I posted it and he had no problem with it. This is no ugly attempt to divide, it is and was an attempt to put a little humor into the situation.
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poets write poetry. everyone else bitches about it.
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How ugly this is. So full of judgement even though written tongue in cheek - I see the ugliness of the greater than thou attitudes. A little humbleness goes a long way in healing wounds. Shut up and write something about the commonality of the community rather than continuing this ugly attempt to divide ...
Where is Kevin now? He should be telling you - an "employee of this site" to shut up.
Lisa
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Second paragraph, third line...wit should be with.
Are you all for real?
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Personally, I enjoyed the stylized religious theme...thought it very accurately reflected the burden of duty and responsibility born by staff who take this site seriously. I, for one, appreciate that this is not an easy task, and applaud you all for the sacrifices you make, for enduring the thanklessness and jibes of those who you work so hard to serve, and for striving to always make AP better.
I live in terror that one day you will all simply throw up your hands in disgust at the small minded few who are so loud and determined. I'm hoping that, when the temptation to do so arises, you remember that there are a great number of us who are quietly grateful for you, your hard work, and this site. You are appreciated.
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Now this, unlike the first little installment, is much more pointed at those of us who took a bit of issue with the confinement of 'words' ..foul as you put it that are used by countless 'intellectuals' as well as 'those who have less than adequate' brain mass.
Not to be offensive, but can you blame those who've pasted the odd curse on their author pages, after being unable to do so for so long?
I for one find the contentious attitude that 'swearing' somehow means one is less than capable of intelligence - offensive, but... tell me, what good would it do me to raise an issue over that? ..
One man's trash is another man's treasure.. I wonder ..just what this is.
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I found this piece a great satirical work, but do not quite agree with the message. But guess what... We're here to critique each other's poems not each other. we can even critique people's critiques! Maybe we should all take a step back and work to help everyone improve their writing. it is not our place to judge what people are writing: obviously it's something important to them or they wouldn't be writing it. Are we to tell people their ideals and morals are wrong? lighten up everyone! and perhaps save the debates about content for Instant Messages?
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My regards to all who run this site, not an easy feat by any means. This is a cute look at the behind the scene going ons that we poets do usually not get a glimpse of
Ruth -
Fuck, dude, great write! lol
Ooops, sorry about that. Quite frankly, the use of "vulgar" language doesn't offend me, and besides, squelching freedom of speech has never worked. So wise decision to allow it's continued use on the site. At least, that was the decision, was it not? I forget...
At any rate, quite the creative little piece here and thanks for sharing it.
Peace
doug
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excellent!
I enjoyed reading this one. Lol..Well this is is a great write as it can be quite controversial, depending on how the reader will take it, but overall it is very well expressed and very very interesting indeed! Keep up the good work and more power to you!
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Heh, no. I've found plenty that i like. Just not yesterday. Peace be with you as well.
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You say you havent found a writer you like here yet, well you obviously havent read my latest poems , just messin'. thanks for stopping by and reading, your opinion is always welcome...peace
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Pearls of wisdom fall as sure and strong as rain.My hero-my mentor strikes again. To the best of the best-you tell um baby.--suseann
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A very interesting read. I found this really inspiring and liked the Bible theme.
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I must admit, I'm sort of glad I was defrocked before being branded an Apostle, or Evangelical, of sorts here as this piece would seem to suggest of the administrative staff.
Other than that minor religious qualm, I'm basically behind Kevin on his decision, I see the use of profanity that doubtless will haunt our hallowed pages will eventually wane and exhaust itself as the novelty of it wears down, and its occurrence will level off to (mostly) exemplary usage; i.e., usage where it not only is not inappropriate, but exactly what is needed to present a message most effectively.
I'm rambling now, so yeah. Clever story, though.
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