If Darwin's Theory of Evolution, is true, then what would be the fate of the Garden of Eden, the story that said about Adam and Eve, and their fruit of knowledge ?1
Both are actually contadicting. We just cannot link those two tales, and interwine into one another or merely omit bothering about them.2
Darwin's Theory 3
Darwin's general theory presumes the development of life from non-life and stresses a purely naturalistic (undirected) "descent with modification". That is, complex creatures evolve from more simplistic ancestors naturally over time. In a nutshell, as random genetic mutations occur within an organism's genetic code, the beneficial mutations are preserved because they aid survival -- a process known as "natural selection." These beneficial mutations are passed on to the next generation. Over time, beneficial mutations accumulate and the result is an entirely different organism (not just a variation of the original, but an entirely different creature).4
The debate that would never end5
Twentieth century science has made the compelling discovery that, at some point, the universe began. Both sides of the Great Debate now agree that the universe has not existed eternally. However, this is where the agreement ends. As far as the "why" and "how" of the "origin event," this is where the division and contention begin. There are two basic theories in this Great Debate. The first is the historical default - the Creation Model of Origins. This theory maintains that the intricate design permeating all things implies a Designer. The second theory is the more recent, atheistic explanation - the Evolution Model of Origins. This theory postulates that the intricate design permeating all things is a product of random chance and excessive time. 6
Creation or Evolution7
It is agreed on all sides that there are only two possible solutions to the riddle of origins. Either Someone made the world, or the world made itself. A third option, the world is eternal and without origin, contradicts Natural Laws such as Thermodynamics and has been disproved with mathematical certainty in the 20th century. As the universe is obviously complex and seemingly well-designed, a Designer should be the scientific default. 8
If there is a Creator, why not He save the world from the natural disasters ? Many innocent children, seem to die in the recent calamities caused by Nature. Are those innocent one year olds, sinners ? 9
Fine, if we go by what the Holy books say, it does not really make sense. Sure, the Lord would never want His children to get destroyed. He would want, poeple to live well, as for which He would have created the universe.10
We do witness, many miracles, agreed. When He had the powers to create the water, seas and oceans and a thousand different species, then why can't He just get in the minds of people and change their ways, if they are prone to sins. Why on earth, does He need to let evil take over ? Would we ever get an answer ?11
If He wants to let people see their own ways and judge them accordingly, then please let Him, appear once, to the entire world. Just once, not just to convince, He is ofcourse far above all necessities to convince, such silly beings, but still, we would be ultimately His children. Let Him show the earth, the mankind, that He exists and watches over.12
With this fear atleast, let people walk in straight paths. Have their hands away from sin, with fear, that He is watching over. Inspite they disobey, then He could let them face their own disasters.13
We could make the earth, a better place to live in. Ofcourse, He is far above, to answer all our doubts about Him. But still, who else could we approach ? After all, if the theory of creation is true, we are all His children, He would be ready enough to forgive us, for even holding such a debate.14
Whatever, we will never know the truth so easily. Even time has not yet given an answer to this seemingly unsolvable riddle.15
Both are actually contadicting. We just cannot link those two tales, and interwine into one another or merely omit bothering about them.2
Darwin's Theory 3
Darwin's general theory presumes the development of life from non-life and stresses a purely naturalistic (undirected) "descent with modification". That is, complex creatures evolve from more simplistic ancestors naturally over time. In a nutshell, as random genetic mutations occur within an organism's genetic code, the beneficial mutations are preserved because they aid survival -- a process known as "natural selection." These beneficial mutations are passed on to the next generation. Over time, beneficial mutations accumulate and the result is an entirely different organism (not just a variation of the original, but an entirely different creature).4
The debate that would never end5
Twentieth century science has made the compelling discovery that, at some point, the universe began. Both sides of the Great Debate now agree that the universe has not existed eternally. However, this is where the agreement ends. As far as the "why" and "how" of the "origin event," this is where the division and contention begin. There are two basic theories in this Great Debate. The first is the historical default - the Creation Model of Origins. This theory maintains that the intricate design permeating all things implies a Designer. The second theory is the more recent, atheistic explanation - the Evolution Model of Origins. This theory postulates that the intricate design permeating all things is a product of random chance and excessive time. 6
Creation or Evolution7
It is agreed on all sides that there are only two possible solutions to the riddle of origins. Either Someone made the world, or the world made itself. A third option, the world is eternal and without origin, contradicts Natural Laws such as Thermodynamics and has been disproved with mathematical certainty in the 20th century. As the universe is obviously complex and seemingly well-designed, a Designer should be the scientific default. 8
If there is a Creator, why not He save the world from the natural disasters ? Many innocent children, seem to die in the recent calamities caused by Nature. Are those innocent one year olds, sinners ? 9
Fine, if we go by what the Holy books say, it does not really make sense. Sure, the Lord would never want His children to get destroyed. He would want, poeple to live well, as for which He would have created the universe.10
We do witness, many miracles, agreed. When He had the powers to create the water, seas and oceans and a thousand different species, then why can't He just get in the minds of people and change their ways, if they are prone to sins. Why on earth, does He need to let evil take over ? Would we ever get an answer ?11
If He wants to let people see their own ways and judge them accordingly, then please let Him, appear once, to the entire world. Just once, not just to convince, He is ofcourse far above all necessities to convince, such silly beings, but still, we would be ultimately His children. Let Him show the earth, the mankind, that He exists and watches over.12
With this fear atleast, let people walk in straight paths. Have their hands away from sin, with fear, that He is watching over. Inspite they disobey, then He could let them face their own disasters.13
We could make the earth, a better place to live in. Ofcourse, He is far above, to answer all our doubts about Him. But still, who else could we approach ? After all, if the theory of creation is true, we are all His children, He would be ready enough to forgive us, for even holding such a debate.14
Whatever, we will never know the truth so easily. Even time has not yet given an answer to this seemingly unsolvable riddle.15
Author notes
Readers Please, I have not attempted to hurt anyone or their feelings.
Nor am I blaming or teasing any spiritual organisation or belief. It was just a debate.
What did you think? Please comment!
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Well...
We have about 10 billion years to figure it out. If not well then it'll be the next universe's BIG question. See you on the other side somewhere. With luck we'll be poets and writers. Dill-

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These musings and debate is good. All qualities of a growing thinking adult.. someone who wants to think. Thank you 
Heres a name for you to either add to your data or confuse you further.. (extremes are usually closer than they seem now, dont they?) - Desmond Morris. I don't recollect it well, but because of his theory Darwinian theory got rejected.. I hope you're able to get this data.. and then shall we get more thoughts on the same??
take care,
keep sharing~
kj.

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a little one sided
It's plain to see that creation theory and evolution theory are always at odds.
I had written this whole history lesson that I planned to submit as a response about ancient civilization and our ancestors, but who but me would be interested in that. (ha!)
You're creation evolution theory, analysis, would be better explained if you had gotten into a little more detail. Maybe by examining the rise of religion, from ancient mesopotamia to the life of Hebrews and Indians (Indians meaning from India) and developing your theory based on how religion in general was created (from life struggles of that time - Egyptians optimistic view of Ra/Horus - Meso's pessimistic view relating to Tiamat -Jesus of Nazareth being recorded by Paul the great Propagandist - The similarities between Christianity and Mithrism - Christians using Mithra's B-Day)
It seems you based your essay from Christian beliefs, "him watching over us" "his children", but you might want to separate yourself from Christianity to get a broader perspective. If you want to truly challenge evolution (and I'm not saying that you are) you will want to gather as much information about it as well as about the creation theory. It's hard to deny evolution when skulls are unearthed of our ancestors and replicas are placed in your hand. When the burial rites of Neanderthal are discovered with tools and flowers placed in the grave and cave paintings of sympathetic magic are explored, it's truly hard to deny the existence when their marks have been left on earth.
I don't think this is as much as a debate or even a contradiction as I'm not seeing the possibility of evolution contradicting religion in any way (am I missing something?) but more as a quest to find justification for god, and ask the questions that so many have wondered, (why do bad things happen to good people, why is there sin, why doesn't he fix it)
It's more like you, as the author, are searching for the answers, in a quest for self meaning - and evolution is sort of a crutch (don't take offense!) But an essay exploring Creation or Evolution has to be fully explored - as your essay ended with questions and doubts of God in Christian form and left evolution hanging by Darwin's beginnings in the most complex - rather than lay style - of explanations. Maybe you would find more satisfaction in comparing various religious beliefs and finding similarities to give clarity as to what you believe.
A little one sided but I do like your thoughts and would like to see it a little bit more researched.
Very interesting.
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WELL DONE
A well formulated argument you created here. One that many consider on a daily basis. I admire your ability to write in this way. I would find it far too difficult.
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Iam not trying to prove anything.. as even i am not sure.. what i was trying to tell is.. we can never deny God's existence.. at the same time.. we can't reject science. But both contradict.. don't u think so ?
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good job
Interesting write, but I'm not sure what you were trying to prove with this, if anything. As far as there being a God, it's obvious to me that there is one. What is not obvious is that Bible is the exact truth as it's written. I think it's all allegory (and Christ himself said as much many times, if you read what he said). As far as evolution, I think it's fact, period. Darwin was right, and he has not been proven wrong as somebody said above. He has been proven right over and over and over. Mendelsohn (or however you spell it) added his bit on the subject and so did others, but Darwin said it first.
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And as we start about discussing creation.. or debate on evolution.. i guesswe would never come up to a conclusion..
We would feel like going with evolution.. as we read about aliens or even the Da Vinci Code.. but still.... some where we are stopped to wholly believe that fact or truth or whatever... What do u say ? -
Glad that you liked my essay. And thanks for the read. Have a good day
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I enjoyed reading here.
It seems to me that there's not a problem. Science advances by peer review. Truths are hunted down. Other scientists do their best to modify someone else's work using the scientific method. That we are finding more out about the physical Universe from microcosm to macrocosm, it is abundantly clear that myth and superstition from Bible stories are mere words pointing well or less well to spiritual truths. The Word is the Truth; not words and Hebrew fables borrowed and expanded from other cultures.
I am recovering from a bacterium now that has evolved for survival to infect me in spite of a Penicillin which once wiped its genus out.
The problem literalists make using a book about their god [I am a Christian and read the Bible with my brain still intact!] is that a book about the history of Religion is not a scientific textbook nor was it intended to be becAUSE MANKIND NEW NOTHING ABOUT the Scientific Method THEN.
Nor can Science prove or disprove God. But if we make God into a Fairy Godmother with wand, sure, believe the two Genesis stories word for word.
It is my belief that Evolution is factual as surely as planes fly, doctors use medication and plastic, although a nuisance, is a scientific product. If a scientist claims to be an atheist this proves nought about Science.
So, I believe that Evolution of Stars, evolution of all elements; evolution of life ... are inescapable truths. This in no way dampens my love for Christ, His teachings and redemptive action.
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Another interesting point about creation theory is that most indigenous peoples from various areas of the world have their own theory on creation, often very similar to each other, and yet each different people/race has a story that puts their race at the center of this creation. Fascinating, actually, and perhaps showing the narcissistic nature of man? lol
At any rate, nice right and a decent essay. Good luck in the contest.
Peace
doug
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I think, part of my problem with the creation theory is that are more than one. The Native Americans have wonderful earth-centered creation myths- where animals ruled the world before man came in to the picture. In my American Lit class, we recently dissected two different versions of the first chapter of the Bible. One was written in 300 BC, the other in 900 BC- both are VASTLY different. Darwin's Theory of Evolution- in regards to the creation process has almost entirely been proven null and void. Only in regards to creation. We might never know how we came to be (but it is good fun to debate about it!)
but I think the point is to try and be good people- whatever that might entail. Good write for the thoughts.
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I really like this. You have a good argument here. Well done. Hugs, Patricia
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very good
A wonderful read. It reminds me of a Steven Hawking quote when asked why the universe is 4 billion years old. He replied, "Because that is how long it took us to figure it out." Perhaps we will be saying this about God (or whatever) one day.
Wonderfully written.
John
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