Most taboo subject?

(I so can't do this in only two words lol *thinks of something taboo I can actually describe in two words*)1

REAL self-harmers2

(not these bullshit 'mummy hates me cause she made me do chores so im gonna take a razorblade to my wrist! then she will see all this hurt she caused!'. Real people, who dont cut, they do other things, and they struggle with it, they know that self harm is worse than the pain itself but they cant stop the way they cope)3

Teenagers would never take that subject on. They like their whiny pretend idea of 'cool' better

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  • SimplyTaylor
    March 30, 2008

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    Even sometimes doctors discount things like wrist banging sometimes as the blood isn't pouring out or leaving scabs. It's easier to explain away, and who wants to talk about purposefully slamming their arms into things?


  • Oddities
    March 19, 2008
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    lol

    26 comments, i think we have a winner.


  • Tizriz
    March 18, 2008

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    Yes, I agree. Good point made. However, if it wasn't a taboo subject maybe there wouldn't be such a problem...


  • Laura-Critchley
    March 16, 2008
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    I'm a teenager, but, a real self harmer. I know you're probably not going to believe or accept that; but, I have been through more than most teenagers who "self harm".

    I cut, but, I also do other things.

    But, I agree it's a taboo subject.

    Most people are happy to pretend that self harm is nothing more than "cool" little teenagers who are sad "cause mummy made me do chores".

    • abba12
      March 17, 2008
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      *hugs* some cutters are self harming and doing it for real reasons, its just that thats become the steryotypical fad way of harming as well, putting it into disrepute when it dosent deserve that.

      i hope you're able to quit one day

      www.recoveryourlife.com is a great site


  • whichcraft Greeters member
    March 15, 2008

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    I have to agree that real self-harmers are people I don't understand. I have seen a show on the new Degrassi that showed a student doing that to themselves. Apparently, the pain they feel makes them feel better from the pain they are receiving from their peers or their family. I couldn't do that.

    • abba12
      March 16, 2008
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      there are as many reasons for self harm as there are self harmers themselves, and for the people that do it in the true sence, not because they think its cool or are glorifying it or whatever, those reasons are even more varied.

      some people are masochists, they enjoy the pain and it makes them feel better. others do it as a way of controling some element of what they feel (many people who self harm through an eating disorder fit into this). some use it as stress releif, much like punching a pillow. some think if their attackers see the scars they might stop, some use it to feel alive because they have become numb to other emotions. theres so many reasons and ways and ideas about it.

      but i assure you, it is not something you want to understand. to truly understand it, you have to go through it. and i would never want to see anyone i care for go through that, because it is an addiction, because it becomes your coping mechanism and you have no other way of coping. its a horrible cycle...

  • pruedence
    March 9, 2008

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    Touchy subject for some, it seems. But something that should be brought to everyone thoughts before someone REALLY hurt themself. Well expressed...thought provoking , and that is a good thing, thanks for sharing


  • Springs gold member
    March 8, 2008
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    -blinks-
    I'm a 'real-self harmer' and I've written about 'real-self harming' as you call it.

    I'd personally advise you to be less judgemental.

    • abba12
      March 8, 2008
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      note the fact its gotten a reaction from you, proving its taboo. people who write the crap will also give reaction because it shows their stuff up


      • Springs gold member
        March 8, 2008
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        yes, I agree the reaction thing, however I find your use of words taboo, not the subject.

    • abba12
      March 8, 2008
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      im not being judgemental. there are people who are real here who write about the real form. i have once or twice myself. but so much of it on this site is this emo crap.

      • Springs gold member
        March 8, 2008
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        I feel there is a fine line betwen 'real' and 'emo crap' and some people just tend to mistake one for the other.

        • abba12
          March 8, 2008
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          it's no fine line, its quite a bold one really. the majority of people that glamourise it for example, thats emo crap. occasionally, the way its glamourised, its true, but most times... no.

          so many 'cutters' do it because they think its cool and their friends do it. its not cool guys, its a horrible addiction.

          • Springs gold member
            March 8, 2008
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            I do not feel it is glamourised.

            I do not think either that people do it because they think it is cool. Sure, there are a couple of cases, and then there are the masochists and such, but whatever.

            Everyone at my college sees it as horrible, disgusting, and would automatically label me as 'emo crap' if I told them, which is why I am do distasteful of your explination. You're just another one of the judgemental people who knows nothing really, right? You generlize on little or no information, and it's always biased.
            Correct?
            -yes, I am also one of those people-

            • abba12
              March 8, 2008
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              now whos the judgmental one.
              when youve been raped regularly since you were 9, and self harmed since then to cope, then you can tell me im being judgmental. but dont you tell me i know nothing, i know far too well the truths of this, 8 years of self harm that i cant get away from is long enough.

              theres more cases than you might think of people that start because theyre cool, at least where i live. as for glamourising, ever heard the song 'bleed it out' by linkin park? and ive seen plenty of stories on here that do it.

              i have no problem with people that write about self harm, what i have a problem with are these emo bitches that complain everything is dark and dreary and are like 'i have no hope for anything, i sit in my room and cut my wrists every day and write on the walls with the blood and no one sees me, im so sad, wah wah.' yes, cutting is an addiction that takes over your life but theres a differance between people who have that problem, and people like this. these people flaunt it, love it, show their cutting to the world. its why many of us dont cut anymore, because its seen as this crap.

              • I was just reading all of this comment thread, and I definitely agree with you, abba.
                Definitely true, too.

              • Laura-Critchley
                March 16, 2008

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                I completely agree with everything you've said.

                I have self harmed for near the same reasons as you. Apart from mine started at 8 and although I did self harm to cope; it was also because I was told I had to punish myself when my abuser wasn't there to punish me. This mindset stayed for a long time with me and I have self harmed on and off for nearly 10 years.

                I admit I mainly cut myself; but, I have also burnt myself on numerous occasions and found other ways to self harm. I know that cutting is seen as cliché and as not a problem; but, I hid it from most people for most of my life and so it has never really been a problem.

                Anyway, I do agree with all you have written and I thank you for being that person that has finally pointed this our to the world.

              • Springs gold member
                March 8, 2008
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                I am judgemental, yes. I do not deny that.

                I quite like that song. I do not find it glamourising at all.
                Please send me a link of glamourising you've found on this site of it, and I shall give in.

                Everything is dark and dreary for some people, you know.
                Some people have no hope for anything.
                Some people do sit in their rooms and cut their wrists everyday.
                That is what a true addiction will do to you.


                • abba12
                  March 8, 2008
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                  you think i dont know that? hell, i did that for a couple of years. i know people who do. the differance is, someone who knows the truths of cutting, who know its become an addiction, they dont go and flaunt it and show it off to the world like these people do. people who are actual self harmrs and it hurts them usually hide it, and they certainly dont walk around showing off their scars like teenagers these days do, as a sort of badge of honour. theyve given us all a bad name, made self harm something its not.

                  as for the link, its not like i save these stories, but ill go looking. theres more of them on allpoetry, the sister site, than storywrite, so i might just send a link from there, they're easy to find heh.

                  • Springs gold member
                    March 8, 2008
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                    Flaunting it as you put it. I would be viwed as flaunting my scars by not wearing a jacket. I simply would be wanting to not sweat to death. I would not, I repeat, NOT be fucking flaunting my scars.
                    I would be trying to make people more used to seeing them so that others can wear what they like, when they like.

                    I shall be waiting.

                    • Laura-Critchley
                      March 16, 2008
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                      I agree with the jacket wearing comment; I often end up flaunting my scars... burn and cut scars alike, but, I got sick of wearing long sleeves and getting too hot and feeling even more disgusted by myself (because of BO and sweat caused by over-heating etc.) just to make everyone else comfortable.

                      I'm not flaunting my scars or burns... I'm trying to make myself comfortable.

                      For the record... I never just self harmed on my arms; the self harm moved to other... ah... more personal areas.

                    • abba12
                      March 8, 2008
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                      I ended up going to allpoetry as i said, cause its far easier to find them there

                      this was so damn triggering... i shouldnt have done it, but whatever.

                      http://allpoetry.com/poem/3995593
                      that one in particular bugged me

                      http://allpoetry.com/poem/3944761
                      this ones more about the picture than the poem itself. theres a LOT of cutters pictures

                      the big things about the following is the idea that the razor is the only friend, the only way out. and keep in mind, they talk about razors, nothing else. there are many many ways to self harm other than razors
                      http://allpoetry.com/poem/3955755
                      http://allpoetry.com/poem/3960133
                      http://allpoetry.com/poem/3939973
                      http://allpoetry.com/poem/3939875

                      i didnt find any of the really good examples i wanted to, but those happen by chance

                      plus, i get the feeling youll find that you can relate to these poems anyway.


                      • Springs gold member
                        March 9, 2008
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                        I take it all back. I came across a girl today who is very obviously glamourising self-harm and such.


                        • Laura-Critchley
                          March 16, 2008
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                          I see girls like this on a daily basis.


                          • Springs gold member
                            March 17, 2008
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                            -looksat-
                            or you just think you do because you don't understand?

                            • Laura-Critchley
                              March 17, 2008
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                              O.o

                              I do understand; I know what it's like to be a real self harmer and the people that I have met in reality that "self harm" do barely anything.

                              Little chicken scratches on their arms... and only about 2 or 3.

                              I'm aware that this could possibly escalate into more serious self harm, but, at the moment these girls just run around showing off these chicken scratches... actually actively showing them off.

                              So yes, I do understand and I do see girls like this on a daily basis.

                              If you've ever hung at near the Urbis in Manchester, or simply just walked through; you'd understand.

                        • abba12
                          March 9, 2008
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                          It's a shame you had to see a girl like that. It can be very triggering.

                          Stay Safe

                          Emily

                      • Springs gold member
                        March 9, 2008
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                        Personally I find that in the first poem, the razorblade is a metaphor for the pain love can cause, and is therefore not about self-harming.

                        I did not connect with the second poem.

                        As for the third one, it was so all over the place that I just gave up trying to read it.

                        The fourth poem, I did not connect much with, but I found it reasonably subtle compared to the others, and therefore not as bad.

                        I agree with you on the fifth poem.

                        As for the last one, it was just...weird o.O

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