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Proper noun question


  • Sange1
    Jul 17 6:26 PM
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    This is something that has been bugging me for a while now and I've not been sure how to do it. In my major novel series project I am working on, there are several new species or races that my group of adventurers comes accross. I've been trying to figure out for a while now if these should be capitalized as proper nouns or not. Examples of what I have are Ghasset, Jade, Demenimp, Vald, Trallax. I have no idea if I should capitalize these.

    When I think about it, I don't know if other fictitious (or even some real) species/races/beings are supposed to be capitalized. You've got humans (should we be capitalized), dogs, cats, etc and in fiction, Klingons, Vulcans, Hutts, Rancor, Tusken Raider, Drow, Elf, Halfling, etc.

    When writing my story, if my character, Kallin, gets in a fight with a creature that I call a Jade, should the Jade be capitalized whenever I refer to it? If so, should I then capitalize the word Human, whenever I refer to our own species? And so on that one, should I capitalize Dog, whenever I refer to our beloved Canines?
  • Well, I think the difference between things like Klingons and humans is that 'human' is our species, while 'Klingon' says what planet their from. For instance, Earthlings should be capitalized (I believe.) We don't capitalize eagles, so I don't see why a trallax should be

    *waits for Yoshi to come and fix whatever mess I just made*
  • It depends, I think, if you are referring to an individual, race, or an actual character. Like in your example: 'Kallin hit the Jade' because it has no other name 'the Jade' is its name so it would be capitalized you might even capitalize 'The'. When you refer to the races you should capitalize them just like you would with different people from different countries like: The Americans. I think you want to capitalize humans when you are referring to them in comparison to another race.
    I think that's it.
    Hope that helps

  • Pyro Fish
    July 20

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    the first post sounds like it was written by me
    seriously i've always wondered when to capitalize and when to not capitalize when it comes to humans interacting with non-human characters in sci-fi/fantasy type stories

  • Myryca
    July 20

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    I agree with Shank. Humans, dogs, cats etc are a type of species and are not capitalised whereas Americans, Australians, Africans, Earthlings etc refer to the name of the country or planet the species is from and thus are capitalised.

    If your ghasset, jade, demenimp, vald and trallax are a type of species which I'm guessing they probably are then don't capitalise them. But if your Trallaxites (or whatever) come from a place called Trallax then do capitalise them.

    If they are all species then the easiest way of figuring it out is just to think what you would do if you were writing "human" instead. For example, in the same way you would not capitalise "the man" or "the human" you should not capitalise "the jade" even if you write "Kallin hit the jade".


    I think drow, elf, halfling etc are incorrectly capitalised whenever they are for the above reasoning and I guess if you capitalise those then you should be consistent and capitalise human and dog etc. Therefore, since you wouldn't capitalise human and dog then don't capitalise elf and drow either.


  • Sange1
    July 22

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    You all have been most helpful I've had one person who is reading over my works state that she believes my created races/species should be capitalized, so I capitalized all of them. It just didn't seem right to me, so I wasn't sure. Microsoft Word has a nifty feature though that lets me find all of a certain word, match case, and then replace all the incorrectly capitalized words with lowercase letters. An easy correction

  • Myryca
    July 22

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    Mm, don't go by what one person says. Unless they are your editor (by which I mean a professional who is working to get your book published).

    • Pyro Fish
      July 23

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      but the editor for one publishing house might disagree with the editor from another publishing house when it comes to this specific thing
  • Stemming off of Myryca and Pyro Fish (because they're right) just go by your own personal preferences

  • Pyro Fish
    July 23

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    the publishing house's editor will make whatever changes they feel will make them the most money, so unless you're specifically trying to make a huge amount of money from publishing your work, then the author should write the story the way he/she feels the story should be, as opposed to what the masses feel the story should be

  • Sange1
    July 23

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    Mmm, good thoughts. I am personally preferring how I'm doing it now (thanks to the various suggestions). Though it is one of those things that isn't too big of a deal and if a publisher wants it different, I don't see what it will hurt later.

  • Pyro Fish
    July 24

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    it prolly won't hurt anything if the publisher changes it, the publisher is going to make the changes that he/she feels will make the book sell the most copies, i wouldn't worry about those changes untill they change something that changes the whole escence of what you were trying to convey with your story
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