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Number of Characters


  • shadowchild25
    Aug 4 1:11 PM
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    I know there is no easy formula for the number of characters in a story, but I'm curious as to what all of you think should be a good number of characters.

  • CactusJack
    August 4

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    It really depends. The length, genre, style and plot of your story make all the difference. Are you writing a short story or something longer, giving more time to add & flesh out each character?
    Also, your writing style. Are you one of those anal writers that make up outlines and such? If so, adding more characters may be easier for you.

    Don't forget you don't really have to count all the side characters unless they're vital to the story. Not every orc, soldier or 32 yr old student at hogwarts needs a name and background story.

    You don't want so many characters, that you forget about them or have them all just standing in a room looking at each other like a badly written high school play. You also don't want too few, then it will seem like the same two people never shut up.

    So yeah, I would need a bit more info to help you narrow it down. But if you want a straight answer, it's 5.

  • Valkyrie
    August 4

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    Most good stories seem to have at least three, so you get more than one interpersonal dynamic as they interact. If you've got the kind of story that has "sides" in conflict, then having more than one on each side lets you double up your character interaction. More love triangles or rivals or whatever you want.

    Longer stories can support more characters, of course. I've read stories that have too few characters and others with so many I couldn't keep them all straight. 5 sounds pretty good, although I could handle up to 15 or so before they blur together.

    And hey, since when are outline-writers anal? I'm about the sloppiest outline-maker I know. I started writing outlines so I knew where my stories were going, because I'd always start stories and never finish them. But they usually go like:

    III. heroes go to ruined city

    IV. fight scene goes here

    V. Character X reveals she's a healer and saves hero from dying of wounds, cuz I'll need her to be a healer later on for uh, something mmk and I want a healer in the party

    Seriously, I write like this.

    • CactusJack
      August 4

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      lol.
      Did I say anal? I meant insane!
      Actually, you proved my point, in that it depends, mostly on the writer. I've tried the outline way before. Didn't go over so well. My muse, along with the right-side of my brain, staged a coup and beat the crap out of the left-side of my brain (he's been reduced to ambassador duty).

      15 characters? That would make me go cross-eyed.

      Please, I beg of you, no more love triangles. Other than the word itself, nothing can be more cliche. I shudder everytime I come across one in a story/movie/tv show etc.

      • tonialoise
        August 5

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        ah but sometimes in depends on the "triangle" sometimes they're not so obvious, and those are the ones I like.

        • CactusJack
          August 5

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          so far I've never come across one that wasn't painfully obvious. I hate romance/erotica so maybe that's my problem. It just really annoys me when some man woman or were-creature can't decide between two people. Is this what real love is like for some people? Maybe that's why the bachelorette is so popular, people watching at home feel like they have two choose between two loves. I can't see how it's possible to care for two different people equally, without them being your parents or kids.
          I see no problem trying to 'win' someone over but vying for their attention like some congressman trying to get re-elected just seems wrong to me.

          I've even seen stories try to make the triangle work. The Anita Blake novels come to mind (before her legs decided they didn't want to seee each other again) she was in a triangle with RIchard and Jean-Claude.
          - in my opinion.

          • tonialoise
            August 5

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            "Is this what real love is like for some people?"

            Well... besides the whole were-creature thing, yeah, many people can't choose between two loves, that's why so many people commit adultery.

    • tonialoise
      August 5

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      wow, you are more anal about outlines than I am.

      I just have a file full of notes, if I'm lucky they're in chronological order for the story.

  • Marta
    August 4

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    I have had between 5 and 55 characters to deal with.

    One story had 32 characters then 13 supporting characters and then 10 more extras but, of course, it was a long book and a big town I created and needed to people it.

    I have about 30-40 characters now in a town that I created and each character has his/her own story but show up in the stories of other characters as extras or supporting characters.

    I have a chart and illustrated town and the geneology of each character and supporting characters & sub-characters and extras.

    I am working on six novels and rotate from one to the other and try to keep every character in line and in mind when working on a particular story. I don't know if that's being anal but, I work best when I have structure and order.

    So, really the number of characters I guess depends on how many you'd like to have and can control.
  • Personally I create characters as I go along the stories.

    One of my favorite author Ernest Hemingway made a whole book with just a single character if you don't include the ocean "The Old Man and the Sea". I guess it all depends on the person writing and not the length though a longer book does have more room for character development hence more room for characters.

    When ever I start up a new story I all was get at least three character going at the start.

    But to answer your question a good round number of characters for a short story would probably be three and a novel/novella/novelette would be anywhere between five and fifteen mostly because I tend to mush characters together after fifteen losing there personalities.

  • tonialoise
    August 5

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    I don't really think there's a formula or anything, it's just what you feel comfortable with, what you are able to write, and how individual you're able to make your characters. As been mentioned you can easily have a book with a single character or a mob.

    Keep in mind though that secondary characters and especially antagonists are there for your main character(s) to react off of. If they're not helping the main character(s) to grow and advance the story, then you probably have too many, the same can be said for too few if the story begins to stagnate.

    Is there a balance? Yeah, but for each person that balance is different, have confidence in your characters and they won't steer you wrong.

  • Lawrie
    August 5

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    Consideration must also be given to the most important of persons, the reader. Too many characters can leave the reader confused, resulting in the story being laid aside; a situation any writer does not want to happen.

    I agree with CactusJack and tonialoise; if any character doesn't help drive the story forward, or is part of the plot, they shouldn't be loafing around the place, they should be in someone else's story looking for work. If they're only peripheral characters then they don't count; they don't even have to be named; they're like extras in a film. Use 'em then lose 'em.

  • Marta
    August 6

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    Then I would think that you'd have to disreagrd the reader, if the person reading the book can't keep up with the storyline and characters, however many there are then perhaps they should go back to reading Dick and Jane books.

    A lot of the writers who actually write those big books, like War and Peace and novels that had not only multiple characters but, also changes of scenes and span for years expect their readers to be able to remember what happened and when and to whom.

    Have new characters make an appearance and mingle with the ones already there, who seem to be loitering in the backgrounds not earning their keep--those writers aren't worried if the readers will keep up.

    If the readers are readily confused then maybe, they aren't intelligent enough to be reading the kinds of books that are geared to the above average intellect.

    Which is why many people don't get beyond the average popular books and into the classics. Characters aside, how many people are willing to take that leap of faith and up their mental game?

    If you can write a story with multiple characters and most are creating a balance and some are just hanging around the reader should be able to tell them apart, maybe the loiterers will be of use down the ways in the story line.

    Some people do need to have their hands held and to have everything explained to them as they read along, I don't think these people are stupid--just lazy.

    I agree with that whole love triangle thing in that it is stupid. For the most part humans were created to be monogamous, isn't what that whole Adam and Eve thing was about--if that's to be believed?

    I don't recall any part if the bible where God told Adam nor Eve "Oh, by the way if you should get bored...you know you can always pick up another partner at Satan's Bar down the street there. Don't worry about it, I'm cool with that. We'll just scratch that little: Thou Shall Not Committ(SP?) Adultery commandment off the list, not a problem." Not.

    Romance and Erotica isn't something I would endorse. Not liking either one of these much.

    One on One is a good game play, if you decide to become a pinch hitter for another team then go for it but, it's always best to know the score and who the players are.

    In the game of life, keeping score and knowing who you sleep with can help you maintain not only sane but, healthy.

    These days having multiple partners unlike having multiple characters can come back to you and bite you in the ass.

    • CactusJack
      August 6

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      I don't think it's so much a matter of being able to keep up, as wanting to do so. Just because a story has a hundred characters, each with an indepth background and their own subplot, does not make it a great story.

      If you disregard the reader then who are you writing for? Maybe they should be disregarded as well.

      I use war and piece as a jack for my car. A novel of that magnitude almost requires more than the normal amount of characters.

      Because something is a called a classic, doesn't necessarily make it so. The Odyssey by Homer for example. Read it in high school, several times. Hated it, each time. I understood the story and didn't need someone to hold my hand. The long string of who begat who to get to some irrelevant ship-hand seemed pointless then and it still does now.

      I consider Shakespeare's works classic as Hamlet and Macbeth are two of my favorite stories. But I know some just don't care for it, doesn't mean their stupid or lazy.


      I've never understood cheating. If you're not happy...leave! Why cheat? Unless you're in an 'open' relationship it just doesn't make sense to me.

  • Marta
    August 6

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    Some can keep up but, let's agree (or disagree) that most can't, it's that simple.

    I guess, I can afford to disregard the readers the story, or rather my stories will be there--written regardless as to whether anyone reads them or not, so I don't really worry if they don't as I make my money in other ways.

    I have the luxury in that I don't want to be a published writer and am self-contained and can share or not, and be read or not.

    True but, most classics are. Perhaps, you think that the whole story was pointless and that Homer should have served his fellow man better as a civil servant. Lol.

    I wonder if you feel that way about the bible also (not my business so, don't answer if you don't care to). Some people believe that Jesus was a silly prophet and that the bible was a book of made up stories, that didn't happen.

    Just because, you understood it though doesn't mean that other people have--some people just like to have their hands held, makes them feel special.

    I agree...I never did say anyone was stupid although, some are lazy in their reading. I didn't give specifics.

    Again, I don't think 'cheating' is the way to go--I think I stated this in the above comment. Perhaps, you misunderstood what I wrote...

  • Marta
    August 6

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    Really? Wow, that is a first--for me.

    (I thought you were being sarcastic). (My Bad)

    Note to self: Must brush up on social skills.

    I guess I can take off my boxing gloves, and hang them up for
    a while.
  • Hmmmm...

    I geuss when it comes to the characters it all comes down to the story it's self. If it is a short story then therre shouldn't be a huge amount of characters. Also i think if the characters are going to be complicated ones then before going straight in to the story, you should write some thing like a database on the characters so they are more easily understood.

  • Marta
    August 7

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    Absolutely. Good point.
  • OMG!

    You are like the first person to ever tell me i have made a good point. Made my day. (Yer sad i know) XD

  • wolfcub
    August 17

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    I "database" all my characters - I generally have a 'key' tab, so I have about twenty-thirty 'main' characters, and anywhere up to 300 names on the database for a completed book. But almost half of those are background names I just record so 'Bill the plumber''s hair doesn't change colour or something like that.
    But I ALWAYS database, and I swear by it! especially using Msoft Excel - I use the autofilter option to just look at my elves/females/brown-eyed people etc.
    • I like the database idea. I tried in a different program, but I'll take a look at Microsoft Excel to see if doing it that way is easier. I wish they had a character program. I'm sure if I asked my technology savvy mother what I should use, she'd find me something incredible, but that's way too much effort.

    • tonialoise
      August 23

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      I like it. I just usually keep a list of them all at the top of my novel file with similar information as you. It would probably be more organized and readable if I put it into a database.
  • It depends on their importance. For main characters, I would say two or three is best.

    When it comes to secondary characters, I would say from three to ten.

    Unless you're JK Rowling, anymore would be confusing and hard to handle.
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